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twopoint6khz



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Central locking woes
In the previous cold snap the rear passenger door lock mechanism froze up. This was then forced from the inside and the button broke. At the same time, the door stopped central locking.

I have now had the door to bits and replaced the broken button, so it can at least be unlocked. However the central locking still doesn't work. Having pulled the plug from the bottom of the actuator, I seem to be getting 0V across it even when the locking is firing - I'd have thought there'd be a 12V pulse to get it to lock? Wiring seems in good condition, and the mechanism moves ok if you move the actuator manually.

Are they individually fused? A look in the fuse box would seem to suggest not, but it's not totally clear which fuse governs the locking.

Any wisdom appreciated.... Bow down
Post #116176 17th Jan 2012 2:55pm
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ickle



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Check the wiring through the b post, theres a plug in the hole at the base of the B post where you can check the pulse - but I'll bet the wires broken in the rubber conduit between post and door,,,

Keith
Post #116367 17th Jan 2012 11:51pm
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twopoint6khz



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As a footnote to this, yes you turned out to be correct, the wires had snapped. Not in the conduit thankfully, but just past the end of it in the B-pillar. No signs of real chafing though? My theory is the wires became brittle when it was very cold and then did rub a bit, causing snappage.

Anyway, easy fix for once! Very Happy
Post #129156 6th Mar 2012 1:15pm
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bpman



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don't forget to grease up all the rods whilst you have the door panel off ... also a splash of dinitrol along the bottom of the door to put off the rust worms Thumbs Up
Post #129162 6th Mar 2012 2:41pm
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110SEB



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twopoint6khz wrote:
As a footnote to this, yes you turned out to be correct, the wires had snapped. Not in the conduit thankfully, but just past the end of it in the B-pillar. No signs of real chafing though? My theory is the wires became brittle when it was very cold and then did rub a bit, causing snappage.

Anyway, easy fix for once! Very Happy


Any more info on this one? Do the wires in the conduit attach to plugs in the door and B pillar? Does anyone know what the part number is for the stretch of wiring? Mine has gone again and i'd like to fix it myself.
Post #186577 20th Nov 2012 1:11pm
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blackwolf



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This is actually quite a common probelm with 110 and 130 second row doors and is entirely due to the flexing of the wires as the door is opened and closed.

The central locking wires are more prone to break than the electric window wires since they are thinner.

When you compare the front door flex conduit to the rear door you can see exactly why this happens - another distinctly crass bit of design.
Post #186607 20th Nov 2012 3:31pm
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The Boy



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Same thing for me two weeks ago replace the wire and its fine now
Post #186611 20th Nov 2012 4:01pm
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johnbain



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electrics where there not needed
im having problems with my x tech to be honest why did they start putting central locking in, that and electric window s just cause more grief Sad Range rover td6
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Post #192809 11th Dec 2012 8:48pm
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geobloke



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Interesting. I have just repaired the drivers side electric window wires which broke inside the flexible rubber conduit. Put it down to fatigue. I will say this, I have had recent cause to fix the passenger side 2nd row central locking mechanism. The actuator was working fine, locked the door as it should, it just would not open the darned lock. The problem was the white plastic/nylon pivot that the actuator, lock plunger and lock attach to... Stiff as... barely move it by hand. A good bit of white grease and 10-15 minutes of working the pivot and all is well and good again.

Incidentally should any of you have the Defender doors not shutting issue take a look at this - http://forum.landrovernet.com/content.php/...How-to-Fix
Post #192823 11th Dec 2012 9:33pm
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jst



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my passenger rear door CDL is inop too! will check wires Cheers

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Post #192824 11th Dec 2012 9:34pm
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johnbain



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the sad bit about my drivers door not opening is that my motor is only 3 mths old and a wee bit frost stops the drivers door opening its so annoying Range rover td6
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the sad bit about my drivers door not opening is that my motor is only 3 mths old and a wee bit frost stops the drivers door opening its so annoying Range rover td6
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Post #192876 12th Dec 2012 7:22am
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Happyoldgit



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Freezing weather makes any grease on the lock mechanism go stiff so much so that it inhibits full functioning of the lock. To do a proper fix you need to strip the door card off, peel back the inner membrane and use some brake or carb cleaner to shift any old grease on the operating mechanism, swivels, locks rods etc, allow to dry and then lube with graphite powder or alternatively service spray or similar. With the card still off work the central locking with door button with the door open but the lock catch clicked back into the closed position - watch the innards and make sure all is well and working freely, if so replace door card and the rest of the gubbins. Steve.
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Post #192930 12th Dec 2012 12:17pm
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