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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Gearbox, transfer case, and diff oil changes
This follows my earlier question about the timing of changing the coolant fluid...
With my 3rd annual service in Switzerland at 52k km, the local Land Rover dealer said to have checked the fluid levels of gearbox, transfer case and diffs... But no change of oils was done as this is not required by LR. So still using the ex factory oils for all that.

I am using my SVX for normal road (mainly city and intercity) driving, no stressy off road use at all. Is the above (no change of those oils at all to date) reasonable, or should I ask them on my own expense to now that the car is 3 years old and has 55k km right now, to change all those fluids by new?

For engine oil, with an average of 18k km per annum, I already am already having extra intermediate oil/filter changes in between the annual service, so change it every 6 months or 9k km. So confident that that is ok.

Appreciate advise. Tks, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #111297 1st Jan 2012 8:12pm
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landy andy



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Ask them to change them

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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
If you plan to stick with your car for a long time, then take extra care. Otherwise, follow the schedule.

I change th engine/filter oil every 6-7kkm because sometimes use diesel with some high S content. Also, city driving is considered as severe condition for gas-diesel engines. Puma 110" SW

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rossy



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with normal (12 ish k per year) mileage, I would change the engine oil and filter twice annually. Its so easy compared to any other vehicle - no ramps needed and everything easy to reach.

As regards gearbox oil I will change mine annually because there are question marks over the Getrag box's longevity (just a hunch from the many many posts on problems with its application in the Puma and Mustang). When I first bought the Puma I changed it straightaway and was surprised to see the sheer amount of abrasive swarf that came out of it !

Probably not necessary but because they are again so easy to get at I would change the transfer box and diff oils annually as well.What harm can it do ? And if you plan to keep it longterm there's nothing like the satisfaction that the job's been done properly at a fraction of the dealership cost Thumbs Up
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T1G UP



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rossy wrote:
with normal (12 ish k per year) mileage, I would change the engine oil and filter twice annually. Its so easy compared to any other vehicle - no ramps needed and everything easy to reach.

As regards gearbox oil I will change mine annually because there are question marks over the Getrag box's longevity (just a hunch from the many many posts on problems with its application in the Puma and Mustang). When I first bought the Puma I changed it straightaway and was surprised to see the sheer amount of abrasive swarf that came out of it !

Probably not necessary but because they are again so easy to get at I would change the transfer box and diff oils annually as well.What harm can it do ? And if you plan to keep it longterm there's nothing like the satisfaction that the job's been done properly at a fraction of the dealership cost Thumbs Up


i'd like to change my box oil when i do the 1500 milers soon. any recomendations for z decent box synthetic type oil?
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ericvv



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OK, that is unanymous and clear advise. For the engine oil I am ok with my semi-annual oil and filter changes.

Gearbox, transfer case and diffs need to be done asap.

Can someone tell me the respective best oils to use (i.e. brands and types) for each of the three above?

Tks, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
I used Castrol SMX S available from Halfords B&Q etc. I believe the name has changed recently to Multivehicle or something like that but its the same stuff just different livery. I'll vouch for its effectiveness as since August (when I changed it) its been smooth, clunk free, crunch free gearchanges even from 2nd to 3rd which is where many guys have had problems. Its a pain to do but when its done its done Thumbs Up
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Any 80W-90 or 75W-90 (this for sure will be synth) GL-5 will do it for all except the gearbox, which uses any 75w-90 GL-4, only. I stay away from those oils stating GL-4 and GL-5 for manual transmission.

Tbox can also use GL-4 spec.

Have a look to opieoil.uk or so. Puma 110" SW

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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
ericvv wrote:
OK, that is unanymous and clear advise. For the engine oil I am ok with my semi-annual oil and filter changes.

Gearbox, transfer case and diffs need to be done asap.

Can someone tell me the respective best oils to use (i.e. brands and types) for each of the three above?

Tks, Eric


engine : Castrol Edge o-30 or Magnatec 5-30
Gearbox: Castrol SMX S
Diffs and Transfer case : Castrol Syntrax 75/90
and a couple of pumps of lithium based grease in the propshaft nipples
Post #111335 1st Jan 2012 10:36pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
rossy wrote:
ericvv wrote:
OK, that is unanymous and clear advise. For the engine oil I am ok with my semi-annual oil and filter changes.

Gearbox, transfer case and diffs need to be done asap.

Can someone tell me the respective best oils to use (i.e. brands and types) for each of the three above?

Tks, Eric


engine : Castrol Edge o-30 or Magnatec 5-30
Gearbox: Castrol SMX S
Diffs and Transfer case : Castrol Syntrax 75/90
and a couple of pumps of lithium based grease in the propshaft nipples


OK, thanks very much. I also asked same question to a diffent thread which provided the Topix list of engine oil. Presume will get similar answer. Will have those oils changed asap now accordingly. Rgds, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
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Post #111337 1st Jan 2012 10:45pm
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