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Daysleepers



Member Since: 15 Dec 2022
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
LOF Clutch Assist Spring
Hi folks

I’ve done half a job and taken the clutch assist spring off.

Tried to put the new one on and my vice died. And then my thumbs. Then my patience.

Can I drive without the spring on? I have to drive tomorrow and don’t really want to take Mrs Daysleepers car.
Post #1027554 10th Mar 2024 10:22pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
You can but youll have to manually pull the pedal back up after each depress! Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #1027558 10th Mar 2024 10:45pm
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Daysleepers



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
Ah probably not then!

Cheers!
Post #1027559 10th Mar 2024 10:54pm
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MCGreen



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Aintree Green
I feel your pain I fitted one yesterday to my 2.2 Puma, I couldn't believe how hard it was. Below are a few things I learnt, I hope it helps.

I had to remove carpet, liner with soundproofing and rubber cover on pedal to get it to go low as poss.
I had to bend out the metal bars with bushes in a little, then bend them back once the spring was fitted.
I used a pair of mole grips to hold the spring with one hand and a tool I had in my trim removal kit in the other to force into position. Seen people use a screw driver with V cut into it.


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Good luck it does go in but nothing like the guy on YouTube did it, popping it in with just his thumbs!
Post #1027565 11th Mar 2024 12:20am
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Daysleepers



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
I wouldn’t have bothered if I knew it was going to be this tough!

LOF have some explaining to do!

“It’s much easier in the car”.
Post #1027566 11th Mar 2024 12:22am
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DAZ110



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
My last spring went on easy with a few cable ties holding back the tension.
Post #1027574 11th Mar 2024 9:36am
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DAZ110



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
Post #1027575 11th Mar 2024 9:38am
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TexasRover



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France 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Chawton White
bankz5152 wrote:
You can but youll have to manually pull the pedal back up after each depress!


Does it though? Is that spring not there just to make the clutch depression easier by assisting when the pedal is pressed in.

Without it, the clutch is 'normal' meaning you are providing all the force and then when you release the hydraulic pressure pushed up the pedal and it just rests on the Master Cylinder with a bit of gravity. Originally there is a little spring to hold the pedal up, but it does very little
Post #1027578 11th Mar 2024 10:43am
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MadTom



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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
I have here TD5 without any spring on clutch pedal (old springs just rusted out), and it works normal. LOF springs are prepared, but first some more than repair is planed. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #1027586 11th Mar 2024 11:38am
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Penfold_6290



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
The closer to the floor the pedal is, the easier the spring is to fit - so adjust the lower limit bolt so the pedal goes down as far as the floor will allow and hold with a block of wood. You may also find that bending one of the 'eyes' on the clutch pedal out by about 45 degrees makes it a lot easier to locate the leg of the spring.
Post #1027594 11th Mar 2024 12:12pm
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Mo Murphy



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^^^ this.
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Post #1027595 11th Mar 2024 12:23pm
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Ianh



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TexasRover wrote:
bankz5152 wrote:
You can but youll have to manually pull the pedal back up after each depress!


Does it though? Is that spring not there just to make the clutch depression easier by assisting when the pedal is pressed in.

Without it, the clutch is 'normal' meaning you are providing all the force and then when you release the hydraulic pressure pushed up the pedal and it just rests on the Master Cylinder with a bit of gravity. Originally there is a little spring to hold the pedal up, but it does very little


As I understand it the spring is there to assist the clutch pedal to rise once it has been depressed, so it actually means you have to use more force to depress the clutch pedal as you are pushing against the clutch hydraulics and the spring. The idea of the LOF spring is it reduces the force required to overcome the spring and therefore makes it easier to depress the clutch, yet still has sufficient engergy stored in the spring to assist the pedal rising as you take foot pressure off the clutch pedal.
Post #1027624 11th Mar 2024 3:55pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
AFAIK, the springs actually has 2 functions - when pedal is up, it creates a bit more force to press the pedal, as it is acting to push the pedal up. Once pressing the pedal goes below a certain point, it starts helping to press the pedal.

I installed one of the LOF springs on a Td5, and the clutch pedal feel became so unnatural because of this behavior, that was removed shortly after.

On my Puma, I have the factory spring, but is driving me crazy with the squeaking noise (only happens when pressing the pedal, does not happen when releasing the pedal), so I am so tempted at removing. No amount of lube has solved it. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1027627 11th Mar 2024 4:13pm
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Daysleepers



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
My squeaky puma clutch was inside the pedal box, it wasn’t the spring. Grease nipple on the box and pump some grease in there, or do what I did and just top the top off and sprayed some silicone grease and it hasn’t squeaked since.
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34064



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 HT Alaska White
A few cans of spinach and its easy Laughing Laughing Laughing

I used a old screw driver with a slot and some cable ties to hold it slightly was the only way i wouldn't say i was crap at it just its bar steward awkward but patience pays of with it dont let it win! 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day

Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784
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