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TriniDaddy



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Arles Blue
Suspension knock
SO. Was driving yesterday and started to hear a knocking sound on the rear right when going over bumps. Thought it was the wheel bearing gone again (that being the most buggy side) but upon inspection it turns out to be connected to the top side of the spring.

I'm not sure if there's a rubber ring or coating that's supposed to be there but something is definitely degrading between the spring and chassis mount point and I cannot find what it is. The only diagram on LRWorkshop is for a two spring setup which doesn't apply in this case. And the part for that is the "helper ring" RRC3352.

I'm stumped.

Any clues on figuring this one out?


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 110 SW 2.4
IZUMI BLUE
Post #1025773 23rd Feb 2024 9:59pm
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custom90



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That looks like the remains of a spring isolator, and looks like it’s degraded, or partially.
Probably leaving a small gap between the remains on the parts that’s is left of it and knocking the spring to the chassis spring seat probably only about a 5mm gap where it’s making contact hence the knocking.
Unless the very top part of the coil is broken but doesn’t look to be.

Take the accessible remains of it away, if that doesn’t cure it then the spring will need to come out and have the remains of the isolator took off and a new one refitted or leave it off.
Wrap around ones, you can probably fit in situ, the castellated ones you can’t. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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TexasRover



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France 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Chawton White
Originally I don't think the defender has spring isolators so you should not find it on a parts list, but you can fit RRC/Disco isolators. This should reduce road noise supposedly.

The 110 has larger springs in the back, but you can isolators from a land cruiser that fit.
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rustandoil



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England 2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS DCPU Bonatti Grey
ANR3060

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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
To me from that photo that looks like the spring shedding its paint or powder coat and I'd be surprised if that is the source of your knock.

Have you checked the damper bushes, a very common source?
Post #1025788 24th Feb 2024 8:03am
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andylee



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also worth checking the anti roll bar links, these cause a knock when worn out
Post #1025799 24th Feb 2024 10:54am
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
It looks like the heat shrink type protective sleeve that they put on the end of coil springs is coming off.
Post #1025809 24th Feb 2024 12:08pm
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
One that gets overlooked, and has happened to me, the bolts holding the upper shock mount.

The nuts on the inside needed nipping up. Wasn’t obvious when looking at it from the outside.

Other than that get a willing volunteer to rock the truck as you lay underneath. Also , noises travel, so don’t forget to look elsewhere.

Good luck
Post #1025820 24th Feb 2024 1:39pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
landy andy wrote:
It looks like the heat shrink type protective sleeve that they put on the end of coil springs is coming off.


+ 1 although its not a heat shrink as it is split along the length. I have purchased spare in the past, but cannot find the part number again. They are used on dual rate springs to prevent metal to metal contact when the coils bottom out.

Edit: it could be ANR3060 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1025826 24th Feb 2024 2:43pm
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custom90



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A frame ball joint and or associated bushes is another knock issue to the rear, took me while to find that one, usually get it coasting lightly on and off power and it’d knock like a trailer tailgate locking forward and back, and the actually ball joint had excess play.
New genuine bushes, and greasable ball joint from gywn lewis and all was fine since, something else to grease as well. Laughing Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #1025832 24th Feb 2024 4:17pm
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