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excossack



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Earliest is 2008 and thats going once we unpick from the network/active directory and our 2012 servers are also going as well.

Win7 exists for a few minor tasks, again these are being looked at to get them gone


Novell...Yes used that for a few years 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Jeez, how come you haven’t pushed these workloads either onto public cloud or even just a colo centre? The days of physical kit are numbered unless you’ve a special use case imho.

I look after a medium size setup for a pic of 1500 servers across five data centres and were about 70% through moving to the cloud.


Interesting! We see loads of businesses now using hybrid workload - some in the public cloud, but more on-premise. Even some companies that started "in the cloud" have now created on-premise services (I believe "Uber" are a case here, they started "in the cloud" and now have on-premise services I believe).

We're seeing a move to hybrid as the future, keeping "crown jewels" on site because of latency or data sovereignty reasons, and less important workload in the cloud... Sounds like you're similar in that 30% stays on site.

Flexible capacity deals from vendors are much cheaper than (for instance) AWS or similar? Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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excossack



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We are due to start having discussions about the kit out of the new server room.
I think for small businesses the cloud works, but based on the ingress/egress costs etc the figures I have see (just for one element of the business) the costs are quite a lot. IMHO I think its cheaper to maintain on prem and we have a lot more control.

Ok, we do have support costs, room heating/cooling etc but I think these costs can be cheaper than a cloud setup.
We do have cloud storage for our backup system but this soon gets consumed. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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excossack wrote:
Earliest is 2008 and thats going once we unpick from the network/active directory and our 2012 servers are also going as well.

Win7 exists for a few minor tasks, again these are being looked at to get them gone


Novell...Yes used that for a few years


i take it you did the MCP courses in microsoft? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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excossack



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Nope. Not done any MCP courses 1999 Defender TD5 110

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DOS with Netware Lite was my first networking system for a massive 9 users. (That and programming with VB for DOS 1.0...) Times have changed!!
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I have read about Netware servers been practically bomb proof, and been online for years with out any down time at all.
I studied the CompTIA and bit of CISCO and windows XP and windows 2003 server. Never got me anywhere at all sadly. I do still have a bit of a play now and again, but no where near as often. Mad how the tech has changed. the good old mighty Dial up Laughing Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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