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| E30_Dave Member Since: 09 Feb 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 6  
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I remember using an electric chainsaw when I was about 13 !.. but that was mains powered
However, I dare say an electric landie would feel real enough - just imagine it's a super-smooth V8 ! Motor available ! |
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12th Feb 2013 2:05pm |
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| twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 652 
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Um, most electric motors have almost no torque at zero rpm? Except series-wound types, but I don't know if they'd be any good on a car.
The thing I'd be most concerned about is the cost of replacement batteries. E.g. the li-ion battery in my phone is goosed after a year's use and now goes flat in 6hrs. Will the same thing happen to the (£10k) battery pack? |
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12th Feb 2013 6:25pm |
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| E30_Dave Member Since: 09 Feb 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 6
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Eh ?... What good would any electric motor be if it has almost zero torque at zero RPM ? Not true I'm afraid.
You're right about the batteries though - hugely expensive, especially Li-Po ! but, properly managed, they should be good for between 5 and 10 years - that's roughly 2,500 - 3,000 cycles.... and even then, if you have a decent management system, you'd most likely find yourself replacing a few at a time, as opposed to the whole lot. |
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12th Feb 2013 6:50pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1565 
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Well I did doubt myself. Just looking at the torque curve of the tesla roadster. It's 200 Ibs per ft at 0 through to 6000 rpm. That thing is basically a lotus but the batteries make it heavy.
Think once batteries or an alternative power source is sorted electric will be fantastic. One down side is you'll hear all the other nasty noises defenders make. |
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12th Feb 2013 7:16pm |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1191  
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Wouldn't fancy an Electric Defender...doesn't feel right.
Hybrid may be the answer.? I've been working on this...it's amazing!!!! http://www.bmw-i.co.uk/en_gb/bmw-i8/ Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow.... Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion Honda Benly CD200....Maroon ------------- Chausson 98.........7.5m of fun |
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12th Feb 2013 7:16pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1565
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A car that does under five seconds to sixty and over a hundred to the gallon. I do like the future.
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12th Feb 2013 7:26pm |
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| me@td5.org Member Since: 16 Jan 2011 Location: Warwick Posts: 856 
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The parts to convert your defender to Electric are available off the shelf now if your happy to retain the R380 gearbox.
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12th Feb 2013 7:38pm |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1191
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Even better when the future is here!! This car will be on the road very soon!..no longer a concept. A production model. Out of my price range....but can't wait 
Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow.... Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion Honda Benly CD200....Maroon ------------- Chausson 98.........7.5m of fun |
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12th Feb 2013 8:12pm |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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Electric cars are the spawn of satan, here am I trying to make an honest living finding fossil fuels and you bbuggerss want electric cars. But then again think how much fossil fuel we ll need for the power stations to generate electrickery, happy days
 Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper |
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12th Feb 2013 8:53pm |
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| E30_Dave Member Since: 09 Feb 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 6
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...and with the way things currently stand, the mainstream OEM aren't achieveing any greater range than the better home conversions.
Have a look at www.rimac-automobili.com |
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12th Feb 2013 9:12pm |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1191
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That's why Hybrid is the only way...Best of all worlds Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow.... Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion Honda Benly CD200....Maroon ------------- Chausson 98.........7.5m of fun |
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12th Feb 2013 10:04pm |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932 
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The way forward is to treat the battery as the fuel source not part of the vehicle .
You pull into BP the automated system takes out your batteries and inserts new ones , you pay off you go. It is then all about infrastructure ( which exists now ) and standardised battery systems . You don't own all the fuel you car will need from day 1 so why own a battery ! So in brief all we need is the car manufacturers , fuel companies , politicians from all countries in the world to agree a standard. Can't see any problems myself. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response |
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12th Feb 2013 11:11pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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13th Feb 2013 7:26am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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Thats how Renault are showing the fast swap system
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18th Feb 2013 12:13pm |
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