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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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I'm sure there was news in the last week or two of a new venture in the area, just can't remember what it was.
Having worked for a number of years with a few South Wales coal mines, I know the attachment to the area many of them had. It was only reported as a possibility and then I wonder if it would be a few cherry picked roles rather than a general offer to most production staff? Other news outlets are suggesting that JLR will redeploy current staff ~ there's got to be a few with little work to do on the Ingenium lines and then there's a few going spare from BMW with 100 jobs being cut from the 1,200-strong workforce at the firm's Hams Hall engine plant near Birmingham. Can't see JLR splashing out on relocation packages for someone else's employees if it doesn't have to; unless Ford are funding it. Definitely hard choices if the offer was made. |
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26th Aug 2020 9:58pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3097 
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I think it was EV batteries? The unfortunate truth is that bar Rolls Royce and Bentley car manufacturing in the UK is knocking on death's door. The only glimmer of hope I can see are new technologies but unless the government help with tax breaks, investment etc they too will migrate to the EU. WARNING.
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26th Aug 2020 10:14pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Yes that was it
"South Wales has emerged as the frontrunner for a £1bn-plus investment for a huge new electric vehicle battery plant which would create up to 4,000 new jobs and up to 15,000 in its supply chain. Britishvolt has confirmed it has identified St Athan, where luxury car maker Aston Martin Lagonda recently opened a new factory, for the proposed gigafactory, which would represent a £1.4bn investment" https://www.business-live.co.uk/manufactur...0-18406521 Not forgetting the Govt have pumped a decent amount of money into AFV research in the last few years. |
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26th Aug 2020 10:23pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Google translate makes for a funny read but worth it:
"The agreement between Ineos and Daimler would initially maintain a little over 1,300 jobs. Ineos will ensure the continuity of production of the current Fortwo for a few years, enough to maintain activity while the Grenadier takes off." https://www.caradisiac.com/ineos-l-etat-ou...185062.htm |
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4th Sep 2020 6:10pm |
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| B4Lamb Member Since: 21 Mar 2015 Location: Abergavenny, Wales Posts: 233  
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With a UK/EU free trade deal looking ever more unlikely I wonder what import duty will be applied to these Lada looking creations. Maybe a good thing to keep them out of the UK in any great numbers. "You are never to old to learn something new"
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5th Sep 2020 9:51pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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https://www.en24news.com/2020/11/the-takeo...track.html
"There is now hardly any doubt: it is the British petrochemicalist Ineos who will buy the Smart plant in Hambach (Moselle) from Daimler. The only project in the running, this sale should receive the approval of the Economic and Social Committee (CSE) on Thursday, despite the fears and anger expressed since the announcement, last July, of the withdrawal of Daimler. The prospect of assembling a new 4×4, the Grenadier, in a factory freshly reconfigured after an investment of 500 million euros, seems to be the only chance to preserve all or part of the 1,500 jobs at the Moselle site. “The arrival of Ineos Automotive, backed by its own investment, has the merit – and not the least – of safeguarding the site’s jobs, even if a part of them will remain dependent on orders from Daimler”, explains the intersyndicale." I think it did receive approval. |
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13th Nov 2020 1:52pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765  
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You learn from living in France that lots of things can get ‘approval’ but until they are actually built/functioning/there for you to see, it is a mere paperwork exercise. I live in a ski resort and have travelled/worked extensively in almost every ski resort in France and I cannot tell you the number of approved lift, piste, expansion, and other schemes that have been ‘given approval’. The classic is inter-resort connections, which if all ‘approvals’ had actually been built would make the whole of the French Alps one single resort. We have two in our town that date back 10-15 years.....
Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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13th Nov 2020 6:14pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2537  
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As it is to be built in France i guess that they will have to tweek it for local market and to sort out the wipers once and for all..
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13th Nov 2020 8:49pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240 
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The UMM Alter is Portuguese
 Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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13th Nov 2020 11:18pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I know very little about French labour law, but isn't this the statutory employee's organisation at the factory. It's quite a big hurdle to have jumped to now have them formally onside with regard to the takeover. |
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14th Nov 2020 6:52am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2537
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Doh....   |
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14th Nov 2020 8:46am |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1298
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Hi markb110, the UMM did start out life as a French Cournil, so don't feel too bad!!
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14th Nov 2020 11:40am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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A little more on the story:
"In a statement seen by Autonews Europe, the UK-based company said it was “delighted to have received the endorsement of the Workers’ Council and the unions at Hambach for our planned acquisition of the site from Mercedes-Benz”. A final agreement should fall into place in the coming weeks, Ineos added. The French government has asked Daimler to continue to build Smart cars there until the UK carmaker starts building the Grenadier in Hambach – or, alternatively, provide other work to ensure continuity of employment. In a statement, the workers’ committee said Daimler must offer assurances that it will continue some activities at the site before selling the factory to Ineos. At the same time, the union also expressed doubts that the Grenadier will be successful, as an ICE-powered vehicle “could be more difficult to sell in the second half of this decade.” https://www.carscoops.com/2020/11/french-u...art-plant/ |
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15th Nov 2020 3:29pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Deal now signed apparently, although not sure how the Times of Malta gets the scoop in my news feed!
"Mercedes-Benz parent Daimler has sold its Smart car factory in northeast France to Britain’s Ineos, which will use it to build a 4x4, a source close to factory management said yesterday. “The sale was signed on Monday evening,” the source said, adding that the deal would preserve 1,300 of the 1,500 jobs at the site in Hambach." " It will continue production of an electric-drive Smart and part of a new electric Mercedes SUV at the site until 2024, the source in Hambach said." https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/dai...eos.837479 The contract work can only be a real positive to the overall costings for the Grenadier; as will having it built by experienced workers. Click image to enlarge INEOS Grenadier (@INEOSGrenadier) Tweeted: We can confirm today that we have acquired the manufacturing facility at Hambach from Mercedes-Benz. Manufacturing at Hambach ensures we remain on track to meet our plans to deliver the Grenadier to customers in early 2022. Full statement: https://t.co/a2RKd98O32 https://t.co/NHf1lSWXxP https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadier/status/...69984?s=20 Last edited by Supacat on 8th Dec 2020 5:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Dec 2020 5:28pm |
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