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Timbo66

Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Leicester
Posts: 37

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Java Black

Puma gearbox selection problems after new clutch.

New to the forum and the land rover world.

I have a 2008 defender 90 with the 2.4 tdci engine and mt82 box. It had a really hard clutch pedal so along with a couple of mechanic friends we changed the clutch and concentric bearing.

However after refitting the box the gear selection is awful. First to second is ok but heading into third you end up in fifth. It's almost like there is no gate into third.

When you can find all of the gears it drives fine with no noises coming from the box. The area around the bottom of the gear lever where it connects to the ball socket feels notchy. It has all been well greased.

Any ideas???

Many thanks.

14th Oct 2018 8:48am

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2258

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

Does the clutch pedal feel ok/air free?

As well there is a rubber gaiter at the bottom of the selector than can be jamming the movement. Unlikely though.

Not sure if it possible to fit the friction plate the other way around. Puma 110" SW

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14th Oct 2018 12:40pm

BenB8man

Member Since: 22 Mar 2017
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 427

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

They may have tightened up the four bolts holding the gear selector in a little too tight. The manual state 25nm whilst in 3rd gear, but mine was less because the gear change was terrible. I think there is a service action to add a couple of extra bushes in to stand it all off a little. I'll see if I can find the info about it.

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14th Oct 2018 3:32pm

BenB8man

Member Since: 22 Mar 2017
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 427

Oh and one other thing, I've seen a few peoples report on the ball/socket being an issue at the bottom of the gear stick. It gets a little rusty and can expand/crack the ball making the gear change pretty bad. Worth a check if you're going back in there.

14th Oct 2018 3:34pm

Timbo66

Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Leicester
Posts: 37

Thanks for the info guys.
The clutch itself is spot on. It bled well and has a good pedal. It's just the actual selection, it doesn't crunch to go into gear.
I'll check the ball and nut torque settings. I'll also carry out the bush upgrade.

Thanks again.
Tim.

14th Oct 2018 4:17pm

BenB8man

Member Since: 22 Mar 2017
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 427

This is the thread about the bushes. http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic29132.html

14th Oct 2018 4:21pm

Timbo66

Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Leicester
Posts: 37

Cheers Ben

14th Oct 2018 10:15pm

Timbo66

Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Leicester
Posts: 37

Hi Ben
Fitted the bush kit and was better. Now I’ve fitted a short shift kit and it’s perfect.
Thanks all for the advice

26th Jan 2019 4:39pm

BenB8man

Member Since: 22 Mar 2017
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 427

Glad to help mate! I’ll be honest I’ve not yet done either, they’re on the ever longer list of thing that are ‘next’.

26th Jan 2019 5:06pm

Timbo66

Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Leicester
Posts: 37

I’d definitely fit the slick shift. Got the one from Syncro Gearboxes, really well made, but it’s made such a difference. Even the wife drives it now.

27th Jan 2019 12:01pm

Big Harold

Member Since: 09 Jul 2018
Location: nsw
Posts: 71

2015 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Alpine White

I found that when I did mine and went to replace the gear stick it was very stiff to select gears.
Finally worked out that the bush that the gear shift ball fits into is a slight snap fit therefore when fitting the gearshift it was not actually snapping over the ball more like resting on the bottom edge of the ball and applying upward pressure.
I think I actually fitted the bush first to the ball then fitted the whole lot as an assembly fiddly but worked much better.
Mark

28th Jan 2019 11:07pm

Timbo66

Member Since: 14 Oct 2018
Location: Leicester
Posts: 37

I found the same, also a tap on top of the gear lever helps to reseat the selector.

28th Jan 2019 11:38pm

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