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jfh



Member Since: 08 Jan 2014
Location: West Coast
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South Africa 2007 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Chawton White
Yes there are a lot of assumptions to be made from the mule.

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Post #733405 7th Oct 2018 6:26am
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fisha



Member Since: 17 Mar 2012
Location: Vegas, Scotland
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Given that quite a lot of the look appears to be approaching final , what’s the typical time frame from seeing these mules to seeing the announce ?

These mules were seen for the full fat rr, the discovery and disco sport etc, but I can’t remember how long it took to seeing the real thing ?


I think it’s looking quite good at this rate -------------------------------
I miss my V8's....
Post #733418 7th Oct 2018 9:41am
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Andy80



Member Since: 31 May 2013
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England 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue
A little different to the Mule I spotted on 06/04/18..



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 Working towards Carry on camping!
Post #733425 7th Oct 2018 10:58am
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fisha



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Certainly has. Although I take it your pic is a swb and the newer pics are the lwb -------------------------------
I miss my V8's....
Post #733438 7th Oct 2018 12:17pm
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F3 wolfman



Member Since: 07 Oct 2018
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Hi all, been lurking here for a while, and without giving too much away for obvious reasons,...what you are in fact looking at is the pickup variant. I also know because of certain other posistion / jobs I have held over the years that a good many will be doubting anything a “ newcomer “ may say. That is entirely understandable, and to be expected, however I also like many of you both for and against any reincarnation of an undoubtable legend are considering it as a replacement for my current 2.5 yr old vehicle which is from the current JLR range. I will be keeping my info to a minimum,... again for obvious reasons. My main concerns do not involve the capabilities of the new wheelbase models..... they are very very good indeed..... my concerns invoke how the marketing and pricing of this vehicle is going to spilt opinions and wallets !!

F3.
Post #733441 7th Oct 2018 12:40pm
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Laurie



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
There's probably a variety of Mules out there, just to confuse us. 
Post #733442 7th Oct 2018 12:44pm
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Ramajama



Member Since: 28 Jul 2016
Location: Heartland, ‘Murica
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United States 
F3 wolfman wrote:
Hi all, been lurking here for a while, and without giving too much away for obvious reasons,...what you are in fact looking at is the pickup variant. I also know because of certain other posistion / jobs I have held over the years that a good many will be doubting anything a “ newcomer “ may say. That is entirely understandable, and to be expected, however I also like many of you both for and against any reincarnation of an undoubtable legend are considering it as a replacement for my current 2.5 yr old vehicle which is from the current JLR range. I will be keeping my info to a minimum,... again for obvious reasons. My main concerns do not involve the capabilities of the new wheelbase models..... they are very very good indeed..... my concerns invoke how the marketing and pricing of this vehicle is going to spilt opinions and wallets !!

F3.

Interesting. I was wondering if the rear prosthetics were covering a soft top...but a truck bed? The rear hatch throws me off. If JLR wants to hit its sales numbers they had better make plenty available in an affordable trim level. In the US, There are a few Wranglers on every street corner and there plenty of Americans itching for Something different that is off road worthy to compete with a Wrangler....The Defender name will attract many buyers here as well. Also, Wranglers have become pricey so JLR shouldn’t have any excuses getting a trim level priced to compete. A well equipped Rubicon approaches $57K USD. Substantial Wranglers are in the $47-$51k range....but I’m sure JLR knows this LOL! We also know and expect to see some $70-$80K Defender trim levels. But if they price them all at that range, they wont hit their numbers. Surely JLR knows this as well.
Once all that camo comes off, I’m certain this will be our next vehicle.
Post #733484 7th Oct 2018 6:06pm
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Ramajama



Member Since: 28 Jul 2016
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Andy80 wrote:
A little different to the Mule I spotted on 06/04/18..



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Absolutely love the stance and tire size on that mule.
Post #733485 7th Oct 2018 6:07pm
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100inch



Member Since: 15 May 2012
Location: Brunswick
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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
[quote="skyrover"]
AndrewS wrote:
skyrover wrote:
SingletrackFred wrote:
I like it.
I expect it's been designed for the Disco4 owners who won't upgrade to a 5, plus those that want a great lifestyle car.
Based on the Disco5/RR chassis, so probably is the Best 4x4xfar!


The Disco isn't a proper offroader... it's a family car that can perform the occasional party trick.


I think you will find it is.


Its not...

It has an independent suspension setup with all the pitfalls that this type of arrangement brings.


Ever owned one? Why do even KOH top racers go over to independent suspension then? Sorry but the 2 pictures are a bad example and by the way you don't need massive flex. What you want is a balanced car, hence the classic RR was such a great performer in standard spec. m


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Post #733547 7th Oct 2018 10:35pm
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F3 wolfman



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JLR know that an increasing number of manufacturers are getting into this key market, with the American buyers in particular,... hence Mercedes X . The likes of VW, Nissan and Mitsubishi, along with their Renault and Fiat clones already know that many buyers will spend a lot of money on these vehicles, And JLR knows this could be a volume maker to make the numbers add up. Ford have got a good strategy to copy,... make a standard pick up range,... and then start make performance variants like the raptor etc. Now think about a standard LR pick up,.... and then think about what you would call your bigger more unsubtle super priced variant,.... DEFENDER!! maybe ? ...... watch this space!!

F3.
Post #733550 7th Oct 2018 10:45pm
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diduan



Member Since: 13 Oct 2016
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Bulgaria 
100inch wrote:
...the classic RR was such a great performer in standard spec. m


Isn't the classic RR a vehicle with two live axles? Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
Jeep Wrangler YJ 1990 4.0. Front 78' Dana 60, Rear CUCV 14 bolt
Post #733581 8th Oct 2018 11:00am
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arran jones



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Post #733636 8th Oct 2018 4:52pm
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Isn't it always boom or bust though...

There's never enough info in those articles to u nderstand any long term trends or issues, month on month figures are pretty useless.
Post #733640 8th Oct 2018 5:03pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Was at my dealer this afternoon to pick up a set of new HD Wolf winter wheels.
Briefly discussed the recent appearance of a variety of mule pictures on the road. This is all part of the JLR scenario to slowly release bits and pieces of info to the public, something which usually preceeds a launch within a few months thereafter.
One thing my dealer said today is that "the new one won't have anything to do with the old cubes anymore, so you better take care of your SVX...". Nothing news in there really, just confirmation of what we all knew already.
Well, for starters, the SVX will get brand new winter tires later this week, the entire truck and especially the chassis got a very thorough clean today, and now that the weather still continues extremely dry and mild here, next week it will spend a full week at Carrosserie LEU near Basel for a full Dinitrol top up treatment.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #733648 8th Oct 2018 5:49pm
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edo



Member Since: 20 Aug 2018
Location: Surrey
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United Kingdom 
Re: New Test Mule Pics
Bluest wrote:
Knicked from Auto Express' Facebook page. Lookin boxxy...



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The insider comment makes sense about this mule being a pickup when you look how it dips in behind the back doors to the "fake" rear section.
Post #733715 8th Oct 2018 9:22pm
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