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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1350   
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Cummins have been working with Petersen's magazine for a few years to promote the R2.8
They have sponsored the Ultimate Adventure in 2017 and 2018 and provided engines for 3 vehicles the magazine has built. Range Rover, http://www.fourwheeler.com/ultimate-advent...nge-rover/ Testing with Cummins http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1710-b...h-cummins/ Jeeps, http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/engine/1...-wrangler/ http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/engine/1...iest-jeep/ http://www.fourwheeler.com/ultimate-advent...17-ua2017/ |
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26th Sep 2018 9:45pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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I'd be interested in something like this when my 2.4 TDCi gives up the ghost (hopefully in many years time).
A 6BT is massive overkill for a Defender, they're the sort of thing fitted to a 7.5t lorry. 4BT more appropriate but it's still a 4l lump of an engine. For a stationary application I wouldn't mind one as they last for every but IMO too much weight for a Defender. The R2.8 is an ideal combination of power, torque weight etc. I have no idea what the regulations are regarding newer vehicles like the TDCi. |
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27th Sep 2018 12:35pm |
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| redline Member Since: 28 Jun 2015 Location: Mountains and Lakes Posts: 221 
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If I had to spend all those $$$ and effort on a re-power, I'd be more inclined to go for an LS3 V-8... Sure, its a few pennies more, but its a whole different outcome
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29th Sep 2018 11:37am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3995 
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It's horses for courses. For hooning about, petrol V8 every time. But long distance touring, expedition, overland etc, I'd take this Cummins. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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29th Sep 2018 11:41am |
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| redline Member Since: 28 Jun 2015 Location: Mountains and Lakes Posts: 221
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@Bluest - one of each would be ideal
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29th Sep 2018 11:43am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3995
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That's the logical conclusion! 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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29th Sep 2018 12:02pm |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337  
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I think the R2.8 looks to be an amazing little engine and there will probs be plenty scope for power upgrades once it becomes more established
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30th Sep 2018 10:54am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3995
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I don’t believe these are available outside the US. I suspect that it is expensive to gain certification so they only do it where they know sales would be good. Probably not worth the cost to bring to Europe.
Be interested to know, if you could get hold of one here, would it be legal to use in a road vehicle? If it is, are the rules different depending on the age of the vehicle you put it in? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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30th Sep 2018 11:41am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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The 6BT is more likely found in 12t lorry's I think, 4BT's can be had in 7.5t. From experience of driving such lorries though, the 4cylinder ones are always rougher at idle, perhaps more by sound than actual vibration. I think if I was going to do it I'd have to fit the 6 cylinder just for the sound. |
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30th Sep 2018 1:03pm |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337
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Surely a brand new common rail turbo diesel isn't going to effect the ozone layer as much as a 200/300tdi or a 2.5turbo |
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30th Sep 2018 4:49pm |
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| Kit Member Since: 12 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1110 
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Yes but the production of said engine does, for example the pollution that's put into the atmosphere to build a Prius is massive. I'm not going to try and workout what the breakeven point is on a new engine like this but I do imagine it's allot lower.... but probably higher than you're thinking.
Keeping a classic car on the road is generally a much smaller carbon footprint over the course of the average useful life of a car, around 8 years or 150,000 miles. 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW 1956 Series 1 Hard-top 1958 Series 1 Soft-top |
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30th Sep 2018 5:25pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3995
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That’s true, but internal combustion engines sold new in U.K. will have have certain EU emissions certification to be allowed. My Briggs engined mower has EU2 or something compliance and specifically states not legal in the US despite being made there. That would imply that an engine that meets the US standard probably doesn’t meet EU standards. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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30th Sep 2018 7:55pm |
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| Oldyellar Member Since: 04 Sep 2015 Location: Central Posts: 337
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I couldn't see it being a problem (emissions wise) retro fitting it in place of the earlier diesel engines fitted to defenders
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1st Oct 2018 7:19am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1758 
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I don't know how many on here watch the australian mighty car mods channel, but I'd love a Barra engine if they were easier to get hold of over here.... 4L inline turbo 6, and stock outputs from 250 to 400HP. Modified versions and the sky's the limit! |
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