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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6031   
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Shouldn't be any different to a non ABS vehicle.... just push the pistons back into the caliper (I use a large pair of pipe grips when the old pad is still in the caliper)
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13th Aug 2018 2:17pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19535
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I’d consider replacing wheel bearings too if you get that far. Seize on the opportunity to replace whilst dismantled Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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13th Aug 2018 4:22pm |
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| Keith5 Member Since: 27 May 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 352 
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Looking at the workshop manual it has the hub assembly removed first, which looks like a job in itself. I can see why you recommend bearings at the same time. Keith
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14th Aug 2018 10:34pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10359
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The discs are bolted to the hub assembly and then the disc usually need 'persuading' off with a hammer. You'll need a multi point socket. 17 or 19, can't remember.
Take the opportunity to convert to the tdi wheel bearing kit too. |
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15th Aug 2018 6:43am |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2545 
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No need to change the bearings unless they’re worn, they basically last forever if not contaminated.
I changed my fronts 190,000 miles ago and the O/S ones are still going strong. N/S ones got mud in so had to be changed a while back. |
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15th Aug 2018 7:20am |
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| Keith5 Member Since: 27 May 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 352
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A little more investigating in the manual and changing the discs looks really simple, as Greeni said just tap it off with a hammer.
 Click image to enlarge However removing the hub assembly looks like the major piece of work  .
Click image to enlarge Disconnecting the brakes, removing gasket and bolts to be "discarded". Is there a kit of gaskets and bolts? Eurocarparts look pretty decent for new Brembo pads and discs but I'm struggling with finding baskets and bolt sizes. Greeni - are you able to elaborate on what changing to the TDI wheel bearings improves? Keith |
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15th Aug 2018 7:31am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1758 
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It's an easy job, all just nuts and bolts, rather than any real finesse required.
The "old" style wheel bearing setup has 2 nuts, so you can adjust them for wear, just takes a bit of time to set the correct preload. The new style has a spacer in the middle, and one nut that gets done up very tight. Personally I stick with the new style, lots of people prefer the older style! Also look at paddocks for parts, they'll also do the drive flange bolts and replacement paper gaskets. |
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15th Aug 2018 1:55pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507  
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If yours has ABS you'll also need to remove the ABS Reluctor ring from the hub in order to remove/replace the disc.
It is a press fit only, so will tap on/off with a hammer and drift ........ just make sure you refit it in it's exact position Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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15th Aug 2018 2:13pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1758
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Isnt the abs ring on the CV?
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15th Aug 2018 2:15pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507
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Ha
I didn't read the title  Only the text, he didn't mention front only there , assumed he was talking about all round ..... Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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15th Aug 2018 2:18pm |
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| Keith5 Member Since: 27 May 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 352
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Thanks for the comments.
I'm going to have a look at Paddocks later for bolts and gaskets, just need to order the main bits before the eurocarparts sale code ends. The service flagged the fronts as needing done so I'm prioritising those just now. Once I've got those done and have the axle stands etc then no doubt the rears will follow. Thanks Keith |
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15th Aug 2018 2:21pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2196 
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Be aware that the discs and pads (AP Lockheed and Ferodo/Mintex discs and pads) will probably be much better value from Paddocks at full price than ECP offerings even with 50% discount.
I have checked a number of times, especially on discs and pads. Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread 84' 90 3.9 V8 Caged Pickup Build Thread - Now For Sale Mobile Diesel Heater Build Thread |
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15th Aug 2018 3:01pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2065 
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Its not that hard of a job.
Pull the ABS sensor from the top Remove pads Push pistons back in Undo the king pin bolts (left snd right of the abs sensor) - jack up and support the entire disc/hub to stop oil leaking from the hub Undo both 13mm bolts on the rear of the caliper - drop the steering bars for better access Remove caliper - can be cable tied on the radius arm Tighten kingpin bolts back up Remove dust cap Remove circlip Remove drive flange x5 bolts Remove stake nut - get a proper 52mm socket Remove disc - careful not to drop or contaminate the outer bearing 5 bolts in the disc Tap off with a hammer Refit is the reverse. Helps to have a drift/rawhide/rubber mallet to fit a new disc You need nee stake nuts to refit. Replace the caliper bolts with new Replace the disc to hub bolts with new Replace the drive flange bolts with new Make sure to torque everything up correctly. New style for the bearings is "idiot proof" not perfect by some peoples standards but totally fine. Clean the caliper snd new disc with brake cleaner. Avoid Mintex pads never had a set that didnt squeak Should be it really. Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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15th Aug 2018 3:14pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2196
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Never had an issue with Mintex pads as long as they are fitted correctly and grease applied correctly. I have had two sets of Ferrodo pads delaminate and fall apart though. Am using Delphi pads this time and they are probably the best I have used. They also fit the calipers better.
I also wouldnt use EBC pads on anything Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread 84' 90 3.9 V8 Caged Pickup Build Thread - Now For Sale Mobile Diesel Heater Build Thread |
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15th Aug 2018 3:55pm |
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