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justinp



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Rolled Defender - ouch
I can me across the following video on YouTube, shows how little strength there is without a roll cage.

 Now gone - 2012 2.2 110 DC XS
Post #718926 21st Jul 2018 3:50pm
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Jim1988



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That’s horrible, I hope everyone was ok, and there was no kids or pets in the car, glad mine is 99% used on road
Post #718928 21st Jul 2018 3:58pm
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Good grief - failed hill climb Sad
Post #718934 21st Jul 2018 4:07pm
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ian series 1



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Location: south
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
Censored Thud 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #718936 21st Jul 2018 4:22pm
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Swine&Small



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Looks like it has been to a Main Dealer for a service Rolling with laughter 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller
1966 Morris Convertible
2012 VW T5 Camper
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Post #718943 21st Jul 2018 4:41pm
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Ramsay



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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
For the multiple rolls it undergoes it seemed to stand up remarkably well. I don’t understand the dialogue at the end but once the hill climb failed and the back end was kicked over by the uneven ground it hit this result shown for the occupants was remarkable in how well they had survived. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
Post #718970 21st Jul 2018 6:52pm
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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Shocked don't think I'd want to be in a vehicle that doesn't stand up well to rolling over.

I can't think of another vehicle that I wouldn't expect to come off a whole lot better than that. but then perhaps I'm deluded?
Post #718973 21st Jul 2018 7:09pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
That hill must be much steeper than it looks in the video (they always look less steep for some reason). By my count that rolled at least 9 times, and that being so it's perhaps no wonder it collapsed.

What particularly interests me is the way the n/s/r suspension collapses and the axle is dislodged forwards when it hits the rock(?) at the start of the roll.

I think the manouvre the driver was attempting was far more extreme that the video initially suggests. He didn't seem to have any control after the ascent failed but not knowing the facts or people and not being there I don't intend to speculate on the reason for the loss of control.
Post #718982 21st Jul 2018 8:04pm
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Paulv8



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my guess was that he lost drive when something broke. it went backwards like it was coasting. V8 90...WIP
Post #718989 21st Jul 2018 8:36pm
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Maxxed_Ross



Member Since: 06 Jun 2012
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Scotland 2001 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Cobar Blue
I still can believe people try that sort of thing without a roll cage, even a front half cage would be better than nothing

That goes for any extreme off road. I've lost count of the number of Jeeps and Toyotas you see on youtube totally flattened by falling over just once from a failed rock crawl 2013 Discovery 4 HSE Lux | 2001 Defender 90 TD5 | 2007 Prodrive RB320
Post #719102 22nd Jul 2018 2:22pm
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Moneypit



Member Since: 27 Feb 2018
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2004 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Fuji White
Wow. Cages don't just look good
Post #719116 22nd Jul 2018 4:05pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It is always in my mind that that is a very likely outcome in a TDCi if the output adaptor shaft fails at the wrong time.
Post #719178 22nd Jul 2018 9:25pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Tis why I have a cage! Seen fenders on th road after a crash looking similar. Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #719231 23rd Jul 2018 11:55am
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
On the comment for other vehicles coming off better.

I was in a freelander two that rolled 5 times sideways over down a 32 day hill. We were doing around 25mph when it went wrong.

The a pillar had a depression drivers side of 4"

Rear window and drivers window broke. All other glass stayed in.

Vehicle finished on wheels. All three of us came out with minor bruises. We got out by opening the doors which all worked better than my current defender!

4hrs later we drove it out of the woods,it registered a camera fault, which was fair enough as the camera was on the wing mirror 10m back up the hill.

Total 42m height drop on the roll.

600 miles on the clock, written off! Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #719260 23rd Jul 2018 3:02pm
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