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Lateralus



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Great Britain, what's this all about?
Post #709237 26th May 2018 12:38am
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It’s about the UK preserving the right to justice for all including those accused of a crime. In the UK we are all innocent until proven guilty by means if a fair trial. Attempts to influence this process is a crime and generally falls under the catagory of contempt of court. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
Post #709240 26th May 2018 2:09am
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That makes sense. Thanks.
Post #709241 26th May 2018 2:11am
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RFT wrote:
It’s about the UK preserving the right to justice for all including those accused of a crime. In the UK we are all innocent until proven guilty by means if a fair trial. Attempts to influence this process is a crime and generally falls under the catagory of contempt of court.


PRESUMED innocent, a very important distinction! 80" 1948
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Post #709264 26th May 2018 8:38am
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You are correct the word PRESUMED is missing from my reply. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
Post #709283 26th May 2018 11:57am
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Interesting why our American user has brought this subject up!

A very brief internet search would show that Tommy Robinson (whose real name is Stephen Lennon) was leader of an extreme right wing group in the UK. Has served time for a mortgage fraud, was sentenced to 3 months suspended for 18 months in May last year for contempt of court provided no more offences were committed.

In the UK contempt of court is a serious offence! So already under a suspended sentence it is hardly surprising on another offence it was straight to prison.

Now why should anyone live under a false name?


Brendan
Post #709290 26th May 2018 12:37pm
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^^^^^^^^^

It has always amazed me how easy it is to change your name and the low cost just £15.00 for a fancy Deed Poll certificate. In fact, legally you do not even have to purchase a Deed Poll certificate as you can just make up your own and get someone to witness it.
Recently one of my friends partner wished to adopt the same surname as my friend as if they were married, she used an online service to obtain a Deed Poll filled it in used a friend to witness it, then took the document to the bank sent a copy of the Deed Poll to the DVLA and social security and all official documents were changed for her to my friends surname. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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Lateralus



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leeds wrote:
Interesting why our American user has brought this subject up!

A very brief internet search would show that Tommy Robinson (whose real name is Stephen Lennon) was leader of an extreme right wing group in the UK. Has served time for a mortgage fraud, was sentenced to 3 months suspended for 18 months in May last year for contempt of court provided no more offences were committed.

In the UK contempt of court is a serious offence! So already under a suspended sentence it is hardly surprising on another offence it was straight to prison.

Now why should anyone live under a false name?


Brendan


I'll admit ignorance on this guy and his organization. I've heard him give interviews before and he didnt seem extreme to me but had concerns about immigration. The way Ive heard some people describe him, he sounded like a white nationalist which I did not gleam from his interviews.
Post #709294 26th May 2018 1:43pm
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He started the EDL -English Defence Legue. He is a through and through racist and white nationalist.
Post #709296 26th May 2018 2:12pm
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He started it but left when other members started to take it too far to the right.

Watch some of his interviews on youtube. It's very enlightening stuff.
Post #709300 26th May 2018 3:06pm
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Tommy Robinson was born Stephen Christopher Lennon, has used the names Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.

Question, why so many different names? One name change I can possibly understand but 3??

He has served 12 months imprisonment for assault on an off duty policeman

He has served prison time for mortgage fraud. Served 6 months of an 18 month sentence

Been convicted for common assault.

Been convicted of entering the USA by travelling on someone else passport, sentenced to 10 months


Been convicted of contempt of court.



This 'gentleman' is not exactly whiter then white.




Brendan
Post #709309 26th May 2018 3:51pm
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leeds wrote:
This 'gentleman' is not exactly whiter then white.


i see what you did there Smile http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
Post #709337 26th May 2018 7:13pm
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Just to close this post out, justice prevails after three trials we now have 20 hateful individuals found guilty and quite a few of them locked up behind bar for a long time.

The actions of some individuals out site the court and online did not help, but fortunately UK law is robust enough to prevail.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

Frustrating that BBC have decided not to list the names of all those found guilty, the court reporting restrictions have mostly been lifted.

Unfortunately there are far far too many cases of this type, some have gone to court, some are still under investigation and no doubt there are a horrendous number not even being investigated.

In our 'civilised' country in the 21st century it is a disgrace that these crimes can take place, those in the local communities who turn a blind eye, blame the victims or normalise this behaviour should take a long hard look at them selves. We have to keep every single child safe in the UK. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
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Tommy Robinson, despite what he may have you believe, is not some white knight of the British nation. He's a racist, a football hooligan, a common thief (mortgage fraud I believe) and generally a bit of a scumbag, like most of the EDL.
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Meanwhile, extreme hate preacher and man directly linked to actual terrorists Anjem Choudary is today released from jail having served less than half his sentence......... just sayin’
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