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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554  |
Shedder-front door water https://www.landroverworkshop.com/parts/EJD500620 https://www.landroverworkshop.com/parts/EJD500630 |
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22nd Apr 2018 12:16pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240  
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I managed to remove and re-stick one recently by carefully working my way around with a modelling knife, slicing through the mastic as I went. This leaves mastic on both the door and the shedder and when pressed back together, they stick perfectly. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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22nd Apr 2018 12:51pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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They're only about £8 a side from Land Rover and come complete with new glue/sealant pre-applied. I wouldn't bother trying to remove with a view to reusing. It can be done, but they tear easily so it means spending a lot of time doing it just for the sake of £8 - depends how much you value your time.
You also have to store them carefully when you put them down to do the work, as the mastic stuff on them sticks like  to a blanket.
If it's on a car I've not worked on before I'll usually order a new shedder before I take the door apart, because you're bound to find someone has been there before and ripped holes in it. |
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22nd Apr 2018 9:02pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997 
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Thanks , I’ll order a spare. The reason I asked about reuse ability is that I have recurring problem in the door that might need multiple trips into the door casing. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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22nd Apr 2018 9:42pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19574
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Whilst called water shedder what's its purpose?
Besides the obvious surely it can't be that effective? Looks more to me like a poor attempt at soundproofing foam to me. I remember taking mine off and refitting no problem, and the mastic stuff is very sticky non setting if I remember rightly. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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22nd Apr 2018 10:13pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16877 
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The purpose is to stop water that enters the door along the glass seal from entering the vehicle, by deflecting it to the drain holes at the bottom of the door (but being a Landrover the holes ingeniously discharge into the vehicle).
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22nd Apr 2018 10:26pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19574
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You'd have thought LR would try and keep water out in the beginning rather than designing the seals to allow it in and into the door inner and though drain holes.
I'm going to have to mess around with these at some point shortly to fit some Dynamat in the doors. Does anyone know what the sticky sealant is? Is it what used to be called Dum dum a not setting putty style sealant? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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22nd Apr 2018 11:03pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240
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Using water shedders isn't a LR thing. Most car doors with wind up windows have them fitted in one form or another. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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23rd Apr 2018 10:18am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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As LandRoverAnorak says, pretty much every car has them. Manufacturers used to just use polythene sheeting, but most have moved to this foam material now. Quite possibly for it's sound/thermal insulation properties.
Another issue with the Defender doors is the scraper seals on the drop glass have big gaps at either end. I filled mine with non-setting windscreen sealant stops most of the water running into the doors.
It's similar, although I don't think actual DumDum is actually made anymore. I bought a roll of butyl based stuff off ebay.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Butyl-Tape-Strip-Bolt-On-Panel-Sealer-Bonding-Vans-Cars-Roof-/332541220739?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10
You can always leave it off until you've fixed the problem. If you're taking the door card on and off a lot, there's a good chance the clips will pull their retainers out of the back of the card too. It's about £50 for a new door card from Land Rover. |
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23rd Apr 2018 11:27am |
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| ssg Member Since: 01 Mar 2018 Location: North East Posts: 65
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I replaced mine with clear polythene sheet when mine ripped. Most vehicles use polythene rather than foam, much more resilient.
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23rd Apr 2018 11:28am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16877
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I also have found it easier over the years to leave the water shedder stuck to the door and make a clean straight incision with a knife if I need access to the door internals. The incision can them be taped up with black nasty (duct tape) afterwards.
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23rd Apr 2018 1:04pm |
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| Natlas Member Since: 20 Mar 2013 Location: West Sussex Posts: 460 
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you can still get dum-dum from Frosts 2.2 90 XS
88" Series One Old Norton 
Minerva |
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23rd Apr 2018 9:11pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19574
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I didn't know that, interesting, I only ever came across polythene on others so this foam stuff is quite new to me.  Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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23rd Apr 2018 9:17pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240
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They may well be polythene (they were on earlier Land Rovers, too) but they do the same job. They don't stop water getting into the door past the window seals. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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23rd Apr 2018 9:20pm |
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