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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
doublea wrote:
Bit of corrosion here! Inside the dust cover there is a significant quantity of rust and shiny particles. There is discernible movement between shaft and hub, which I expect is causing the clunk on taking up drive. 39 month old, 30k miles 2.2 110. Unlubricated splined shafts eh!


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Approx. 39k miles, 2.2 110. New drive flanges and a generous helping of grease will hopefully extend the life of the half shafts for a while, but eventually I'll go for one piece shafts.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/post712677.html#712677 Darren

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Post #712894 17th Jun 2018 7:36pm
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Julie



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France 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
benh78 wrote:
Would it be possible to raise this as group complaint in the uk via something like watchdog? I’ve not had this issue yet but thanks to forums I know it’s in my future. Turbo hoses blowing off/ splitting seem to have been kind of fixed but at least Land Rover have tried to do things to address although silicone hoses and a bigger better intercooler are prob better fixes then JLR.


Well guys - I'm on board. Let's go for Solihull and get the "shaft issue" resolved.
I changed my shaft one month ago. JLR has no fix for this issue.
My car is only 5.5 years old and I have to rely on Ashcroft - Land Rover keep things going and don't resolve anything.

I'm frustrated.

P.S.: The turbo hose issue and the oil pump issue are related to genuine Ford parts .
They start a recall and are far more costumer friendly.
Post #712897 17th Jun 2018 7:42pm
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toetankh



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Netherlands 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
I must be the luckiest guy with a 110 Puma!

- Removed transfer box
- Noticed no play in the output shaft whatsoever (as far as I'm aware, it's never been replaced in 110.000 kms)
- Want to replace with Ashcroft kit, as it's all disassembled now and it is coverered in a lot of red dust (bone-dry)
- Now: The output shaft sits so tight in the coupling, I can't get it out... It's only a spring clip isn't it?
- And: Any other suggestions than: 'a good pull'? As that doesn't seem to work Sad

Before I start to manufacture some kind of puller for the output shaft.

- Hopefully the bolt holding the female coupling to the gearbox is easier to remove...

Thanks!

Sven
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Use a slide hammer to pull the shaft from the coupling (the correct way to do it).

Getting the female part off the gearbox is generally harder.
Post #716799 8th Jul 2018 9:43pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Any case where early Pumas have been checked, let´s say around 100kkm, and output shaft splines were in good shape/minimum wear? Puma 110" SW

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Post #716962 9th Jul 2018 11:26pm
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ericvv



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^^ Yes, here. 2009 model year (August 2008 production) Puma 2.4.
Last fall at 85k km my clutch went kaput, was replaced by dealer. Knowing the problems with these output shafts, I asked them to check condition when gear/transfer box were all split up. All fine, no wear or rust, saw it myself.
Could it be that back in those years Solihull assembled and aligned everything still better? Not sure, but I believe these rust and wear issues discussed here are mostly from more recent model years.
LR must have realised (too late) that there was an issue as at the very end of 2015/2016 production, Solihull suddenly decided to put extra Weicon paste as output shaft grease. (The blue stuff which with most of those late production trucks starts leaking out almost from new)
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
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Grenadier



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MK wrote:
Any case where early Pumas have been checked, let´s say around 100kkm, and output shaft splines were in good shape/minimum wear?


Mine just failed. Bang on 100km (66k Miles). 2.4l MY2011. Not sure if that counts as early or late. More 'in the middle'. Whistle Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
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Grenadier



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Off Topic Morning Eric, enjoying this amazing weather? Lots of time down by the lake. Slow start, but what a summer it's turning out to be Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
Post #716973 10th Jul 2018 5:47am
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ian series 1



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
MK wrote:
Any case where early Pumas have been checked, let´s say around 100kkm, and output shaft splines were in good shape/minimum wear?


I’ve found that earlier models are less prone to failiure/wear
2011 onwards seem to suffer more.

These are my own findings, so don’t hold me to it.. Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #716976 10th Jul 2018 6:17am
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Fernando



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Argentina 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Bonatti Grey
Good day, I am one of the lucky ones. !!!!!
Defender 2008 2.4 220.000 km and walking.
At the moment I'm going for the reform of Ashcroft
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ian series 1



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Thud Thud 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #717000 10th Jul 2018 10:17am
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
The "weicon grease" mentioned here, is it copper, aluminum, nickel etc based? Question Puma 110" SW

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Post #717010 10th Jul 2018 11:52am
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Grenadier wrote:
Off Topic Morning Eric, enjoying this amazing weather? Lots of time down by the lake. Slow start, but what a summer it's turning out to be Thumbs Up



Hey Grenadier, we are not down by the lake anymore. New stage in life. Thumbs Up We changed a few days ago our license plates from GE to VD. Whistle
In Geneva they now say that we are driving in a "Véhicule Dangéreux". Rolling Eyes But as per the song of Shania Twain, "That don't impress me much". Laughing
So we are a bit higher up now at 850m altitude (lake is at 420m). We are high enough that in addition to a Honda grass mower, we now also have our own Honda snow blower and snow plough on caterpillar tracks ready for next winter. Cool
But the weather indeed is great now, and while we are not down by the lake anymore every day, we do have a unrestricted view from our new deck of the entire lake from Montreux at the left to Geneva at the right, and exactly in the middle in front of us we see the fabulous Mont Blanc. Here is a poor quality Iphone picture I took from our house a few evenings ago.
Eric


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 You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
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ericvv



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MK wrote:
The "weicon grease" mentioned here, is it copper, aluminum, nickel etc based? Question


It is a Weicon anti-seize montage paste that was used at Solihull late in the production. Available from Land Rover as part number IYX500050.
Most likely it is a totally metals free, and non-hardening paste, same as the other Weicon anti-seize montage paste which I use on my door screws, bonnet catch, etc. That is Weicon ASW450 high tech metals free paste. Great stuff, never hardens, not even after years. And it keeps its working capacities upto a temp of 1400°C.
Weicon ASW450 is available from Amazon UK. Link below.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Weicon-26100045-H...rds=weicon
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Thanks. Puma 110" SW

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