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chopcat



Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Pembrokeshire
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Wales 2000 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Java Black
Diagnose my symptoms
I am a bit harder to start in the mornings having been left for a few days
When I get going I’m more smokey than usual
After a mile when I’m a bit warmer I’m not smokey any more and feeling back to normal
Whats up Doc ?

Could my injectors need a look at?
Post #669670 8th Dec 2017 7:54am
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ian series 1



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
Worth checking all 4 glow plugs by the sounds of it? 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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Post #669671 8th Dec 2017 8:07am
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Huttopia



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I had those symptoms on my 300tdi. All the glow plugs were shot......as was the head gasket Big Cry

I hope yours is a minor tweak 👍
Post #669674 8th Dec 2017 8:30am
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geobloke



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It is suspicious that it is happening during a period of colder weather, so as above initially suspect that your glow plugs might need attention and check your battery is charged and is being charged by the alternator.

Inicidentally I have changed changed all my glow plugs as all of them were dead... Shocked
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dorsetsmith



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Post #669693 8th Dec 2017 10:34am
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chopcat



Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
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Wales 2000 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Java Black
I will change them anyway at 17 years old they deserve it

TC
Post #669775 8th Dec 2017 7:33pm
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JWL



Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
My problems were down to 15 years of crap and crud getting into the motor. Cleaned it out and it starts better than ever, a week of poor starting, symptoms that were pointing me to bad diesel delivery and other things and it was all down to crap in the motor..
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excossack



Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Even after changing glow plugs on the TD5 its still a PITA to start when cold. Lumpy and smokey then evens out. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #669896 9th Dec 2017 7:16pm
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roel



Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I had starting problems too, After changing my glowplugs I thaught it had to be the batteries but used another one without improvement so I cleaned my starter motor and the contacts. But I noticed it was still turning heavy by hand. I opened the gearbox part and the grease in there was very tough. I cleaned that too and put some multipupose grease in and now it starts like neven before. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #669897 9th Dec 2017 7:28pm
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
I'd be looking at the simple fixes first, yes glow plugs can be suspect at this time of year but, the Td5 can be started without them. The biggest thing with the Td5 is being able to spin it over with no hassle, dirty solonoid contacts can create a magnetic distubance which then affects the crank sensor, poor earths can compromise good electric flow to the starter. We all know what a PITA getting the starter motor on and off can be, mainly due to that 15mm nut that sits hidden at the back, get a method that sorts that nut and it becomes a job you think nothing of, not a task.
The Td5 is quite a robust engine even with all the reliance on the wonders of electrickery and compared to todays engines is a very simple system. Yes a decent diagnostic kit is essential if you do your own spanner work but there's still a lot of old school logic required, with my starting problem I was convinced that it was a diesel problem, it wouldn't start without full throttle and then reluctantly either hot or cold.
If you can't start normally, needs some cranking etc, then the injectors aren't to know this and will keep pumping the diesel in so don't be surprised to get a fair bit of smoke and lumpy running at the start. Even a perfectly set up Td5 will run a bit off when started cold as No.5 cylinder has no heat in the bore, some people are convinced that No.5 injector doesn't even give any fuelling untill the engine runs.
The big thing is to make sure all the basics are sound before worrying about the more complex features of the engine Wink
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
In answser to the OP, sounds a lot like cardiac insufficiency likely due to decreased output. Suggest you get a radio-opaque dye injection followed closely by a full cardiac computed tomography (CT) scan. You’ll probably find this will reveal some occluded arteries (or artery) which will need stents. Once sorted properly you’ll feel great again. And for Crissake stop smoking. Rolling with laughter 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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