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Grenadier



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Double Din Dash - Dimensions
Planing a few autumn upgrades, including a DDD. Looking at a Kenwood with 7" Capacitive Screen, However Alpine have just brought out an 8" unit offering a screen size 43% bigger than the 7" units currently about Shocked

So I was wondering for those that have made the upgrade, can anyone tell me what the screen aperture measurement in the fascia is? The Alpine unit's screen measures 189.5mm x 120mm. I know some of the early DD fasicas were made to fit 6" screens, but have they got larger as Head Units have increased?

Thanks in advance Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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I bought mine last week and it only fits the 6 inch screens! 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Just another option....

I decided to be a bit of a guinea pig and went the Android route with a Joying 7" DD head unit. So far I'm pretty impressed with the performance (and cost).

I have a higher end Pioneer DD in my Shogun, but the Joying screen is miles better. Loading time isn't as quick, but it definitely has more features. Out of the box it has GPS (I'm using Waze, but it comes with iGo), dual USB inputs, rear camera inputs, and secondary video inputs. You can also tether it to your phone WIFI or use a 3G/LTE USB dongle to connect it to the internet.

They also make a 8" and 10" version for single DIN dashes.

I'm running a TD5 dash with a Raptor facia. With this setup I had to put the HU in from behind as it doesn't fit in the DD slot -- however it looks almost factory this way. Not sure sure how well it would fit on the puma dash.
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Grenadier



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Roy5695 wrote:
I bought mine last week and it only fits the 6 inch screens!


Any chance to make it bigger? Think the 8" comes with a universal trim kit. Monsieur Le Grenadier

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You could make it bigger if the trim piece can be secured and the mounting for the head unit would bring the screen forwards so it looks right.

My actual unit is bigger than the hole so it's screwed into brackets attached to the facia before the facia gets fitted to the dash.


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You can see there is space to enlarge the hole. 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Grenadier



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Thanks Roy, looks good. Think I'll by the Dash upgrade, measure the hole size and buy the largest/Best-fit DD. Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Roy5695



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No worries! Still fettling mine as the unit is quite deep and hits the air vent pipework at the back, so the facia doesn't sit flush.

Doing my head in, the amount of times I've had it out, heated and bent the pipe, put it back in, still doesn't fit Banging Head

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Beeder



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Hi Roy how did you resolve this ? - I’ve just fitted a pioneer unit and for the life of me I cannot get the new double din dash back flush - is it the plastic pipe at the back that’s fouling it ? I’ve cut the clock down and checked double checked but cannot get it back flush ? Thanks
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Someone told me that you need to use a hot air gun and gently melt the plastic pipe and reform it to accept the new DD system.

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nihwrd



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Hi

I have a similar problem, an have already re-moulded the air pipes and it still won't go flush.

I think it might be some of the looms being too tight - did anyone extend any of theirs?

Nick
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The fitment is a pain in the .....

Try to fit the system without any wires first. (And push all the remaing wires to the side)
If that fits Just a wire at a time. And keep all the other wires to the side

This way you know if you have a clearance issue Or it’s Just like allways that the wires are in the way.
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Did you cut the bottom of the clock off?

Also I had a problem with the right side clip not engaging in its recess due to this side being weaker with the hole cut out for the extra switches. Took me nearly 8/9 months to figure his out.

Now have to have the extra switch panel removed while inserting the facia so the correct engagement of the side clip can be achieved and now sits perfect πŸ‘ 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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Tdi4 - that was plan for this weekend!

Roy - "cut the bottom of the clock", I haven't done, can you explain what needs to be done and why? I did notice the bottom of the clock fouled the H/U as I was putting it in, but once it had slid over the bracket in the dash it seemed to be ok.

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Roy5695



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Depends on your headunit I suppose. My pioneer sph da 120 has quite a large unit on it and the bottom of the clock would foul on the top of the unit and prevent the facia sitting right. I removed A toblerone shape bit of plastic from the rear bottom part of the clock. Clock still works and facia fits properly. 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html

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