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NickEJ



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Slovenia 2004 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Galway Green
Mantec Spare Wheel carrier
Spent a couple of hours yesterday fitting one of these following a recommendation on here. What a difference it's made. No more crashing, banging and rattling going over potholes, sleeping policemen and the like. Wish I'd fitted one years ago now.

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discomog



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I fitted one to mine a couple of years ago - yes what a difference, no more rattling and banging from the rear. Defender 90XS SW
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hi

If the Mantec Spare Wheel Carrier does develop a rattle... Shocked

Then it will (almost certainly) be the Main Securing Bolt (from the Nylon 'Piston')
rattling within the 'slot' of the Swing Away 'element'

The Fix...

Take 2 M12 Nylock Nuts...and grind a Chamfer on one removing the Nylock Element

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Screw on the Chamfered Nut towards the Slot

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Tighten up the Chamfered Nut...into the Slot (which has become wider than the M12 Bolt

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Apply the Standard M12 Nut to Lock the new arrangement

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If the rattle returns...then take up the further 'opening' of the Slot

Mine was quite for 18 Months / 15K miles, then a rattle...now OK for last 5K


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Good Luck... SKIP
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lightning



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I like the idea of a spare wheel carrier, but as usual it requires extra holes drilling in the bodywork.

I already had to replace the rear corner cappings because a previous owned blathered them with a drill to fit lamp guards.
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
When I fitted mine I drilled the main ginge bolts so I could easily grease them.


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Post #643306 11th Aug 2017 8:59pm
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X4SKP



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lightning wrote:
I like the idea of a spare wheel carrier, but as usual it requires extra holes drilling in the bodywork.


Hello lightning

You are right this is a consideration, but the Mantec requires that only 2 'new' holes be made, to secure the Top Bracket...and to be precise, these, depending on the tolerance / build quality of your Defender Shocked are pre-existing Rivet Positions (at 60mm Centers) that if in the right location, just need to be enlarged. So actually No new holes (in my case) just an adjustment of 2 existing.

Top Bracket X2 Holes (pre-existing Rivet Positions)


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Door Panel X6 Holes (Pre-existing No adjustment)


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Bottom Bracket X4 Holes (Pre-existing No adjustment)


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Land Rover did improve the Strength of the Rear Door (I think in 2007 with the introduction of the Puma)
but the Hinges have remained the same from the 200 & 300 tdis.

A Spare Wheel Carries does help to take (spread) the weight of the Wheel away from being centered on the Rear Door, it is not uncommon to have the rear door 'break its back'....cracking the second skin, or in earlier versions the inner support structure.

If you have Larger / Heavier Wheels than standard then it's worth considering, as a 'normal' cost Spare Wheel Carrier, will be less expensive than replacing a rear door back to standard / factory spec'

Inner Rear Door Structure (Puma)


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Good Luck SKIP
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Post #643434 12th Aug 2017 12:20pm
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mk1collector



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lightning wrote:
I like the idea of a spare wheel carrier, but as usual it requires extra holes drilling in the bodywork.

I already had to replace the rear corner cappings because a previous owned blathered them with a drill to fit lamp guards.


The nakatanenga wheel carrier requires no bodywork holes and is stainless so won't rust either. Ray
My build thread
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NickEJ



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It's also nearly three times the price of the Mantec version which, by comparison, becomes good value.
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mk1collector



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But how much will it cost to repair the back end when either the capping or the Mantec carrier rot away Whistle Ray
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
We are possibly on a road to nowhere trying to justify what we spend on our Defenders.

I freely admit that at times I have been taken in by 'I like it'... 'I want it'... 'I've bought it'...'how much' Shocked
these 'attacks' are becoming less frequent with 'experience'.

But I'll give you my reasoning on this (for those interested)...

The nakatanenga wheel carrier is probably a first rate bit of kit (but I have no experience of it) it 'reviews' well on here, but for me it is just too expensive...the price would need to ideally start with a '3' (4 at a push) for me to give it seriously consideration.

The Mantec could be better in a few areas, but I've been impressed so far, I liked it as for me it sort of matches the NAS Rear step again good enough but has its 'could be better' areas (the rubbish thin steel plate under the rubber tread...this will need replacing in time).

I treated and sealed the internals all the tubing of both these products, with Dinitrol (along with my side steps) to hopefully slow down the rotting from the inside out 'phenomenon' of many after market bolt on bits for Land Rovers.

Sealing the two holes in the Rail (Capping) was easy enough, and I really don't think with the 'riot' of holes and rivets on a Defender, this will be a weak point to a faster than normal failure.

My Mantec was £220 (inc vat / typically these are around £250 inc) If I'd have opted for a nakatanenga it would have been more than the cost of my Spare Wheel...which just wouldn't of felt right.


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I'll see in time how the Mantec 'holds up', but after 20K, and one mod' to improve things, its looking OK. SKIP
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Rashers



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Nicely said Skip Thumbs Up

If the Mantec works for you, great. If others buy the Nakatanenga and they think it is money well spent, great. Personally, mine is still screwed to the door, but it's something that will need to be addressed before soon.
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Kit



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Nicely said X4SKP Thumbs Up pretty much my school of thought on the matter 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
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NickEJ



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And that's a yes from me as well Skip Thumbs Up Three votes - you're through to next week! Laughing
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Fitted my wheel carrier today.
Took about 1 hr and really happy with it.
Good build quality and easy to read instructions.

Nice one Mantec Thumbs Up



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NickEJ



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Any change in the noise with it fitted Chris?
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