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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765   
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^^^ The company might last if you also got members of the paying public to watch you be useless and overpaid. Maybe knock out some t-shirts with the company logo and sell some rancid burgers....
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
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30th Nov 2017 1:45pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3354  
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Oh yes
And get two large multinationals to film me working and pay millions for the privilege..... |
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30th Nov 2017 1:58pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765
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On reflection I'm not sure such a far fetched idea would ever work. Pure fantasy
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
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30th Nov 2017 2:30pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006  
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Everything being equal even with all the money I wouldn't want the life of a pro football player, far too precarious, being beholden to the whim of the press, every day willing to not get injuries and a constant fear of being superceded by a younger more talented and better looking upstart. Nah not for me, I may have things to worry about but in comparison my life is simple and better for it. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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30th Nov 2017 3:14pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16931 
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Are you perhaps referring to a certain University Vice-Chancellor? If so, I agree that it is outrageous, but I have to take issue with your assertion that such people "do nothing". In effect a Vice Chancellor is the equivalent of the chief executive officer of a company, and a company with assets in excess of £600M and an annual turnover in excess of £250M is likely to need to pay a reasonably high salary to attract a good CEO. A university is no different. I do however agree that this particular example does seem to be rather hard to justify. Oh, and it is £468,000 by the way, and a free house, and car.  |
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30th Nov 2017 3:31pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3354
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I'm no socialist, but some of these wage packages are getting unreal.
What can one individual at a University do to command £450000 and a free pad in Bath? I appreciate that some peoples jobs have a lot more responsibility than others. I think I am paid a fair wage for what I do. Yes I would like more. Yes, I would take more if they gave it to me, but I realise that the more they pay me, the higher my charge-out rate and the less competitive my bosses business becomes and the less work that comes in. It is a competitive arena in which we trade. No work will equal my redundancy so I am happy with what I get and we get enough work to keep me busy. Mind you, if I were a Football Manager, I would arrive under great fanfare, get a large salary and a contract for five years,  the job up well and truly, then get sacked with an enormously large pre-determined get-out payment.
I still don't get what is happening? |
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30th Nov 2017 3:43pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19651
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BW - Yes, you are correct.
What I'd like to see is the actual jobs... Where are things actually being done to make the country productive? Seems to me like the work load is a heavy burden on a reduced proportion of society, a section that don't want to do any. And a section that believe they are too good to work. It seems to me that an ever smaller proportion are having to work longer, and do much more fir much the same money. While others other there are actually doing very little indeed, for ridiculously exploded amounts. Many of them have not achieved anything through their own merits. (Through their own productivity is admirable.) But instead from the jobs for the boys brigade from the past and the "I know you and you know me, I'll slip you in through door" methods from many moons ago. Then there is of course another portion of people who would like to work, but have no work to do or cannot do it by being outpriced by low wage labour from other areas. The injustice annoys me a great deal. And the city to me is an embassament, however, I never enter it to worry any more. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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30th Nov 2017 4:45pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16931
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On the subject of wages and salaries, and speaking as someone who has now been the victim of Government "austerity" for more than seven years (which means that I have had no pay-rise at all, or a pay-rise substantially lower than the rate of inflation for seven years and in real terms am now very considerably worse off than I was seven years ago), one thing that I would have liked to see was the MPs who inflict "austerity" upon us to lead by example and subject their own salaries to the same restraint.
It does, quite frankly, anger me very greatly to be told that we must share the pain and the country cannot afford to pay teachers, nurses, firemen, etc an appropriate salary whilst the person doing the telling is at the same time pocketing massive increases and outrageous expenses. That makes me livid. Like, I suspect, most others in similar circumstances, not only has the remuneration gone down in real terms during this period of "austerity" but the workload has gone up. We are not allowed to recruit replacement staff for any that leave since we are subject to a Whitehall directive that our workforce is to be cut by 60% in the life of this Government. As a result, my department, which should have 28 people, now has 12 attempting to do 28 people's work. I am fed up with working 12 to 14 hours per day (without thanks or overtime) to try to maintain output. Shocking, but there really is no alternative because of the gross financial mismanagement of UK PLC which we the taxpayers have allowed successive governments of inept, unscrupulous, and borderline-criminal MPs to get away with. It is all rather depressing. |
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30th Nov 2017 5:21pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19651
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Fully agree, the whole lot of em' are shysters to say the least.
The truth hurts, so their answer is = don't answer.  Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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30th Nov 2017 5:32pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Although I agree with you about politicians, we haven't had any austerity:
https://theconversation.com/there-hasnt-be...turn-28353 Our spending is more than ever (though slightly down against GDP) and our debt interest payments grows all the time:  Click image to enlarge We need a massive re-think in this country, and we do actually need a package of austerity. I never thought I'd say this, but we give too much to the elderly (and yes, I'm knocking on the door of elderly myself) and benefits are given out far too easily. Sick pay is also given too readily. We have grown a dependency culture. I've been self-employed for 34 years, and the government have given me nothing - nothing! But every year, twice a year, I hand over a cheque. I've been off sick for one week with actual flu, and I've had three (paid for myself!) operations which required two weeks off after each one. If everyone was self-employed, you'd see sickness-days dive to unimaginable levels. I could tell you stories about where my wife works (state sector) that would have you fuming - all at the taxpayer's expense. To be honest, I'm sick of people taking from me, and that's one of the reasons I voted for Brexit, because some of that 'take' is going to European countries for them to spend!!! £24 million A DAY! Insane. Like I said, we need a major re-think, or else it's all going to end nastily. We certainly can't go on having a welfare system and letting in 2,000 people a day. For there lies disaster. Now left. |
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30th Nov 2017 6:07pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16931
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Don't say that to a public sector employee, e.g., nurse, firefighter, teacher, MoD civilian employee, policeperson, etc., or you're likely to get short shrift! You may not have had austerity, but we sure as heck have! I do however agree with everything else you say - there are several very significant and fundamentally wrong things at the moment. |
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30th Nov 2017 6:12pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Sorry Blackwolf (as I said, my wife is in state/public sector) but we simply haven't had real austerity. There's lots about this online:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-...erity.html 'Austerity'is a known politico-economic measure to drastically reduce spending. It never happened. All that has happened is spending has reduced a little against GDP. Look how people like me are vilified when they say that: https://evolvepolitics.com/deluded-questio...onspiracy/ The truth is that spending was never cut back enough to rectify our borrowing requirement. Sorry, it never happened. We're still borrowing to fund an economic system that will crash again. We still don't have a viable manufacturing sector to pay for our excesses and our over-generous welfare system. People have never understood this. A few years back, I wrote this piece and my wife posted it on her Facebook. People we know didn't understand it - and there you have it. Can you help this family? Last year, Mr & Mrs Brittan's debt continued. Here is their income & expenditure: Combined income from jobs £64,800 Combined expenditure £73,200 So they had to borrow £ 8,400 Trouble is, they have been borrowing every year for years, as they have been living beyond their means. To date they owe a staggering £151,400. This is how their annual expenditure looks: Food, mortgage & clothes £22,200 Private family health scheme £14,000 Education for their kids £ 9,800 Paying interest on debt £ 5,300 Sport & hobbies etc. £ 5,300 Protecting their home £ 3,800 Personal safety £ 3,200 Home help (cleaner etc.) £ 3,100 Repairs £ 2,500 Car, buses & trains £ 2,300 Garden £ 1,700 Can you see where they are going wrong? In case you haven't guessed it, this is Britain. Now add seven zeros to the ends of those figures and you have Britain's income and expenditure. Total receipts from income tax, vat, national insurance and various taxes is £648 billion – but we spend £732 billion. The above expenditure in order is: Social welfare £222 billion (up from £220 billion)..on 2013 Health costs £140 billion (up from £137 billion) Education £ 98 billion (up from £97 billion) Debt interest payments £ 53 billion (down from £108 billion) Culture, sport & int. development £ 53 billion (same) Defence £ 38 billion (down from £40 billion) Public order & safety £ 32 billion (up from £31 billion) Personal social services £ 31 billion (same) Housing & Environment £ 25 billion (up from £23 billion) Transport £ 23 billion (up from £21 billion) Industry, agriculture & employment £ 17 billion (up from £16 billion) Just paying the interest on our debt costs us over £100,000 every minute – almost £1,700 every second that you are reading this. So for a start, Britain needs to stop borrowing £84 billion a year. Where can we cut £84 billion? Dear Charlotte Church, what 'austerity'? Where is it? Why don't you wind your neck in and apply what intelligence you do have to singing? What would YOU cut? Now left. |
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30th Nov 2017 7:52pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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Social welfare. Paying people to breed is counterproductive. Incentives for not filling the country with people who have to be educated, housed and kept alive makes more sense. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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30th Nov 2017 9:39pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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My local paper had a headline on the shocking "austerity" in this country.
Below it was a headline that "Stansted Airport has had a record year. More passengers than ever before". Square that circle? |
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30th Nov 2017 11:13pm |
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