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| Welkman Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Essex colchester Posts: 326  
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Cheers Mate
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22nd Mar 2018 9:00pm |
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| legin Member Since: 22 Jul 2017 Location: Chelmsford Essex Posts: 1004 
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Bottle jack and a Tirfor and you can't go wrong
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23rd Mar 2018 11:16pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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+1 for the Tirfor - my favourite piece of off road kit...and useful in the garden too:
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24th Mar 2018 11:17am |
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| legin Member Since: 22 Jul 2017 Location: Chelmsford Essex Posts: 1004
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Supacat That's a rare bit of kit only ever seen a wire drum fitted to the side of a Tirfor in a war museum before.
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3rd Apr 2018 10:38pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Well thanks for making me feel old
I bought the drum (coilamatic) new with the Tirfor itself. Having previous experience with Tirfors and the battle of handling 30m of loose cable in/out of a vehicle multiple times, it was top of my list of options to get with one. I must admit, I've never seen anyone else with one but wouldn't be without mine.  |
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4th Apr 2018 1:27pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857 
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I always carry at least one. Mind you I find the old wheelbarrow/motorcycle tyre technique more convenient than the coilamatic drum.
Excellent tools! |
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4th Apr 2018 2:04pm |
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| MartnH Member Since: 30 Oct 2017 Location: Nsw Posts: 28 
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My high lift jack almost killed me
I now respect this piece of tool highly... I still carry one but usually I will use bottle jack first.... I guess, you won't understand what I mean till you experience it yourself.... |
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13th Apr 2018 8:11am |
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| Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 581
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I have driven Land Rovers all over the world, used the OEM jack, high-lifts, air-bag jacks, tirfor winches, electric winches and hydraulic winches. None of them is better than the others, they all perform different tasks.
The air-bag I would limit to sand and soft ground, winches need trees, the electric and hydraulic ones need the engine running (I know the electric runs off the battery, but unless you have a very good set up for battery charging and capacity, it is surprising how little you can do before the battery is flat) and an anchor. Tirfors need a lot of effort High lifts are may preferred option, but are plain dangerous if you are not experienced with them. To give an answer we need to know what your plans are, the ammount of off-roadin, the ammount of tracks etc. Are you travelling in a group, do you have a winch? The one thing I would say, leave the trolley jack at home. 80" 1948 Lightweight V8 Bowler Tomcat 130 Station wagon 90 300tdi (Santana PS10 pick up) Range Rover L322 (Ful fat) |
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13th Apr 2018 9:08am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19532
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The factory pillar jack gave out on me! Got rid now but half way up and it slid all of the threads down in seconds!
Luckily as most would, wheel still on and nothing underneath at all, most importantly not me underneath. Personally I’d never get underneath unless wheels are on or garage lift. I wouldn’t even trust axle stands, although they are perfect for general work so long as not your not under it. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ And if You Love the Country, then we’re on the same side ~ I got’ love for Britain, I got’ British pride’. 🇬🇧 |
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13th Apr 2018 12:21pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I thought the same way as you with regard to feeling safe underneath having the wheels on but, if you stop a second to think about it, the tyres are just a form of air bag jack and whilst failures may be rare - I've never heard of one failing with someone underneath - they conceivably could.
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13th Apr 2018 1:22pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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Even garage lifts can fail - although most have a safety system. And two post lifts rely on the car being positioned on them in a balanced position - removing gearbox can throw the car out of balance and tip it off. Decent axle stands are perfectly safe on hard level ground. Decent ones will have an appropriate foot print to prevent them falling over. Problems come when people try using them on a camber or soft tarmac.... ie at the side of the road. Lifting nearly 3 tons with anything is dangerous if the tools are of poor quality or aren't used correctly. |
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14th Apr 2018 11:33pm |
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| Guy Member Since: 11 Feb 2013 Location: St Eval, Cornwall Posts: 250
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ARB have come up with a new take on the off road farm jack. Looks good...
https://www.arb.com.au/recovery/hi-lift-jacks-accessories/jack/ DINGO - '99 Discovery 2 V8 with 300Tdi transplant, chawton white. Repatriated from Australia and expedition prepped. **FOR SALE** SHARKY - '06 Discovery 3 HSE Auto, bonatti grey. SOLD. GEORGE - '99 Discovery 1 300Tdi Auto, willow green. Daily driver, travel companion, part of the family! SOLD. PINGU - '96 Defender 110 300Tdi station wagon. SOLD. Dream LR - 130 pop top station wagon camper. |
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15th Apr 2018 9:43am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19532
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ZSD - Indeed that’s an issue, too much purchase on something on the ramp and wouldn’t be good.
Safest thing really is keep out from underneath as much as possible, and never rush always be mindful if you do. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ And if You Love the Country, then we’re on the same side ~ I got’ love for Britain, I got’ British pride’. 🇬🇧 |
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15th Apr 2018 11:24am |
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