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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7872   
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Not a nice story, I can imagine your worry as we all know which side the police will fall on! Hopefully, it is nothing and will blow over. I just wonder if you're that worried if it would be worth a polite call to the local police station to report the incident? Get in their first, so to speak.
Also, have you tried playing a radio in the house constantly as back ground noise? It may make Samson less bothered by other noises. Good luck. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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18th Jul 2017 5:16pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
Thank you for the speedy reply James. Yes I was considering having a polite word with the police. Just wanted the advice of the collective on here first to get different opinions first. 4.6 RV8 110HT
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18th Jul 2017 5:37pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769  
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Firstly, are the kids now a permenant fixture in the area? If not the matter is unlikely to go any further. If they are likely to be living in the area long term then as above a call to the local station may be wise (although the matter is unlikely to go further anyway) it lets the police know that the kids are causing a noise problem. Ray
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18th Jul 2017 5:42pm |
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| Outlaw1 Member Since: 11 Aug 2016 Location: east sussex Posts: 266 
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+1 Good advice James,totally agree about a quite word with the police
Perhaps if it is possible you could introduce samson to them and educate at the same time |
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18th Jul 2017 5:45pm |
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| Stripygitface Member Since: 16 Sep 2014 Location: Kent Posts: 78 |
Obviously a cause for concern, however no doubt you have pointed out to the parent the actual facts, and hopefully they are intelligent enough to take this on board, and deal with their child.
If however the police do get involved they will take all of the facts into consideration, and it will not necessarily end with the dog being taken away. I have recently been involved with a situation where a pack of dogs were chasing our sheep, 2 of the dogs attacked and bit somebody badly enough the break the skin and draw blood, witnessed by the owner who at that point had appeared. We thought both offences together should be strong enough evidence to have the dogs destroyed, the police gave the caravan dwelling owner a caution! |
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18th Jul 2017 6:04pm |
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| stigomery Member Since: 10 May 2016 Location: Cambridge Posts: 277 
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I'm not sure if approaching the police first is a great idea as why raise an issue if it has not become an issue (yet). The police are not going to take any different a stance if you get to them first, they don't know you or your dog.
Fact is, the dog has not attacked anyone therefore it's his word against yours and the accusation of an aggrieved child. Personally I'd get my ducks in a row, understand the situation fully from any of the non aggrieved children and deal with it if it comes up. (Edit, I misread and assumed you knew the children... regardless I'd not be running to the police too quickly however if noise/abuse does become an issue I'd be down there reporting it) A friend was walking her dog locally and a known aggressive dog was also being walked, the two tangled, my friend's dog accidentally mouthed the other dog's owner as he tried to pull them apart. She is now restricted to lead-only walking of her dog (a blooming cuddly lab!!!) and the other dog, a husky type breed who has attacked my own dog is still roaming free... Justice that is not! Sorry to hear about your predicament. |
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18th Jul 2017 6:09pm |
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| Baz8046 Member Since: 08 Feb 2016 Location: Chatham Posts: 78 
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Sorry to hear your news.
It can be awkward when you fall out with neighbours and it's not nice to be falsely accused. I wouldn't worry about this too much. Nothing actually happened so it is only an alleged threat that your neighbour can't back up. I don't think the police would be interested and they would certainly ask you for your side of the story. Hopefully it will just blow over. Defender Td5 Commercial 2002 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE 2005 Discovery 4 SDV6 Landmark 2016 |
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18th Jul 2017 9:27pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6031 
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Bit late now, but next time, if there is one, when you need to ask the kids to move, video it on a smartphone... This will give you evidence to show the parents.
Tough one really though, as much as I love dogs (and HATE kids), the kids have every much of right to be outside playing as your dog does to have some peace and quiet, some would say more so. |
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18th Jul 2017 9:31pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3333 
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Don't worry about confiscation.
We had a problem with a neighbour years ago who got RSPCA and Police involved. They can tell pretty quickly if there is an issue. There wasn't with us and there isn't with you. Just had a moaning whinging neighbour round a couple of weeks ago (not about our dogs) but it really upset me as I don't go out trying to upset people who live round me. Just the one complaint. No one else. Just wants to make a point. I would also find out who your local neighbourhood policeman is and have a quiet word about your concerns and the accusation. Parenting is worryingly aggressive these days. Just look at kids sporting events. Please don't worry. I know that doesn't help much. |
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18th Jul 2017 9:46pm |
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| need4speed Member Since: 23 Nov 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 746 |
Thanks guys for all your thoughts on this. It has set my mind at ease.
I didn't go to the local police station as it happened. Not because I didn't think it was a good idea but my partner thought it was best to see if it went further first. Also, a close friend of mine reckoned that, seeing as the incident happened last night, if the moronic neighbour had made an accusation to the police they would have been round by now. Especially seeing how hot they are on the dangerous dogs act these days. Fingers crossed it has blown over... 4.6 RV8 110HT |
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18th Jul 2017 10:03pm |
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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185 
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Next time you see the dad outside ask him to come over and talk. Tell him to keep his rugrats under control and then urinate on his shoe to show him your the dominate one.
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19th Jul 2017 4:30am |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 
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We had a similar issue of a parent trying to give me abuse about me threatening his boy with my dog, right up until I pointed out that his child had deliberately crashed through my hedge into my back garden and that my dog was an aging springer who was more likely to fart on someone than savage them.
Also I am increasingly noticing that many parents especially of younger kids don't seem to be able to restran their kids from petting my cat or dog without asking me if it is safe or appropriate. Makita has had a few very near misses when out and about in my arms when kids and even adults have just reached out for him. Sorry not my fault, you startled my cat and he defended himself, what did you think would happen? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon. |
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19th Jul 2017 5:27am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288 
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Well that was a great lesson mutton head gave his brat offspring to ensure his moronic attitudes are passed onto the next generation.
 If anything requires taking away its the brat.  Why is there's not compulsory parenting lessons in the UK, its so clearly needed. Pass a test and then you can breed, fail and get the snip. 
BTW, I'd be wary about videoing them, that could and probably will be twisted into something far worse by the parents and you wont want that. |
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19th Jul 2017 9:52am |
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| Capt_Steve Member Since: 10 Jan 2012 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 39 
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What a lovely looking boy your Samson is.
I have a situation where my boy, a 3 year old Rottweiler, doesn't like the postman driving up to the gate, getting out in his hi-vis jacket and approaching the postbox. Now our vet, friends and family will say until they are blue in the face that he is the softest dog you could wish for, but we have had two visits from the Royal Mail HSE department telling us to move the box further away, raise the gate and all fencing to five foot otherwise they would no longer deliver. Whilst that was easily done, what was pointed out to us was that our boy was jumping around on his two back legs and getting himself into a state, which obviously isn't good for him. So I have someone that is going to do some training with my boy when I get home, and he assures me that it wouldn't take much to get him over the postman problem. Now, not knowing how often you have the brat problem, four hours is a long time for a dog to be stressed, and I wonder if you can seek help from a local trainer to teach him to not bother whilst the brats are within ear shot. This could save you a drama if he was to ever get out, and actually approach any of the brats he thinks is in trouble. Cheers Steve |
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19th Jul 2017 11:08am |
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