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stanley



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Mines sept 2011 2.4 and no DPF , mine was one of the last 2.4 off production line
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Sammyboy



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Sumatra Black
Not sure how genuine it is but there is currently a Puma 110 USW XS for sale on eBay that has only 8 (delivery) miles on the clock and apparently dry stored since new for £39000.

Genuine or too good to be true?!?!?! Discovery 4 HSE
Defender 2.2 110 USW XS
Ford Kuga AWD
Discovery 3
Range Rover P38
Discovery - 300 TDI
Discovery - 200TDI
Post #647341 31st Aug 2017 8:23am
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seriesonenut



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We picked up a 15 plate 130 earlier this year with 300 miles or so on the clock, stored since new.People with cash to spare taking a chance values increase post 16

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David T



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black
Mine's a Mar 2012 and is £240 pa, it's classified N1 light utility 4x4.

I put it up for sale on here and on Ebay at £25,750 but had no takers, even though it was £1500 to £2500 cheaper than higher mileage/lower spec ones on local forecourts ( most of which are still unsold also ) 🤷🏼‍♂️
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spam242



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bringing up an old thread i know, but is all this information still current and correct?
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spam242



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Anyone?
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
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Cheaper road tax on 2.2 because it has the dpf, just to consider. Pumas with six speed are very good for motorway cruising/touring. No regrets with ours. Good luck!


Utility Wagons are commercial vehicles so they have cheaper road tax than cars. From a certain date (about 2011ish) all Defenders were registered as commercials so the tax is at the lower band on all late vehicles, but if you buy an earlier station wagon with windows in the boot it's about �500 a year because they're registered as a car. All Commercials are about �240ish a year.

So if you compare say a 2010 County Station wagon with a 2013 County Station wagon, the 2013 one is indeed cheaper, but it's because the later one is regisitered as a commercial, not because of the DPF. A Commercial of any age and anything after about 2011 is the same tax band.

Pickups, Single, double cab, HCPU, hard top vans, Utility Station wagons are all commercials, regardless of age.


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bringing up an old thread i know, but is all this information still current and correct?


Yes, so long as the vehicle is registered as a Commercial vehicle it has cheaper road tax, regardless of engine size.
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
zsd-puma is correct

For a Defender just look at the V5C (Logbook) Section 4 (Vehicle Details) J (Vehicle category)
N1 Commercial (late 2010 >)...Lower VED (Road Tax)
M1 'Non-commercial'...Higher VED

From late 2010 irrespective of type (CSW to Utility) ALL defenders were listed as N1...

This is the real 'cross over' point for VED levels, JLR applied for and got this vehicle categorisation with the DVLA
I don't know how they did it or why it was granted, but personally i'm please that there was some 'reprieve' for
owners covering the last 6 years of production vehicles. SKIP
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seriesonenut



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Re: Service history
seriesonenut wrote:
Older post but I am still looking. Tempted by a 2008 XS CSW. 101,000 miles 4 owners on sale at an independant - to quote

'A really nice example, straight and tidy, mechanically sound and everything works as it should. Full roof rack, and half leather with air conditioning as per the standard XS specification.Not a full demonstrable service history as it has been owned recently by and enthusiast who has done all the servicing and maintenance himself''

The on line MOT history shows consistent mileage and no horrors other than bulbs and tyre cuts/wear.

Question is should I run a mile from no service history?


That sounds familiar, I was looking at maybe if not that same vehicle one with the same back story and mileage. In the end I decided to go for one with a history and found one a couple of months later. I decided there are lots to choose from and why take a chance? (given it was not much cheaper, and remember if its too good to be true often it is!) 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
It depends what you define as a service history though. Even if it's been maintained by an enthusiast there will likely be a pile of receipts. I've got a folder full of receipts for mine. Same for my previous cars, the new owners got a folder with receipts for every filter and bottle of oil. What they didn't get was a load of stamps in a service book.

My classic mini now has two folders full of receipts, old MOT's, even even tax disc it's ever had.

But in reality I've added little value to a conventional 'service history' over the years when buying cars, it's not done me any wrong. Those that have been neglected or tarted up are usually obvious. And unlike say a 5 year old Range Rover, it's pretty common for Defenders to be enthusiast serviced.
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seriesonenut



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I agree there is nothing wrong with home service as long as there are bills and receipts to evidence the work if you decide to sell on. With a vehicle the wrong side of £20k I think it is essential to have confidence in the way a vehicle has been cared for and the owner/seller in deciding to go DIY should bear that in mind . Dealer service history means not much really I had a Volvo V70D5 FSH which broke down with fuel starvation issues. Long story short, fuel filter never changed from new despite the main dealer FSH! 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2
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defender9



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
seriesonenut wrote:
We picked up a 15 plate 130 earlier this year with 300 miles or so on the clock, stored since new.People with cash to spare taking a chance values increase post 16

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That Sir is a stunning looking beast Thumbs Up
Post #689137 26th Feb 2018 9:14pm
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seriesonenut



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it is.

By now its been fitted with a hard top to replace the canvas with a full length roof rack. Ill grab a shot when I next see it out and about.

super cool truck Thumbs Up 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2
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