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L110CDL



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Soldering iron.
Hi all
I bought my self a very cheap soldering iron back along to just do a few wires but as i'm doing more wiring and want the joins to be ' secure ' my cheap iron is not up to it, so i was wondering what you use ?

Many thanks for looking and may be a reply Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


Clayton.
Post #627433 28th May 2017 9:33pm
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custom90



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Dremel butane gas, it's hotter for Defender use but electric is better for intricate electronics. There is a smaller pen like one as a kit like I have or a more torch like one. I like the little one. Lighter fluid by Rolson to refill it Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

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Post #627437 28th May 2017 9:46pm
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sako243



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What is your cheap soldering iron? Why would you think it's not up to the job?

Bearing in mind the general consensus is that the strength of solder joints lies in the skill of the technician. Hence why a lot of stuff is crimped because it's repeatable strength and quality.

Anyway, in response to your question. I have a cheap Weller at home but also have access to lots of ERSA soldering station at work (not really Land Rover style soldering that mind).

Most of my stuff on the vehicle I tend to crimp and will occasionally solder, last thing I soldered was with a gas torch though (winch cables after crimping). Ed
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Post #627442 28th May 2017 9:50pm
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Devon-Rover



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Been using the Clarke butane soldering iron from Machine mart for years now. been happy with it's flame - heat control and lasts a fair time before needing topping up. Thumbs Up
Post #627459 28th May 2017 10:13pm
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L110CDL



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Thanks custom90steve and devon rover for your replys, will look in to those that you have mentioned Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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Post #627463 28th May 2017 10:23pm
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L110CDL



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sako 243 Many thanks for your reply, i do do alot of crimping but on some i prefer that added bit of security on the join Wink On the cheap iron the end of it wears away and does not do a good solder joint, very messy, not good, so that is why i have asked for some help Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up. Keeper.


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Post #627464 28th May 2017 10:28pm
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custom90



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The Dremel has variable flow control. Does the Clarke one too? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #627472 28th May 2017 10:47pm
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Mash



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I bought a dremel one when I replaced my old gas powered jobby, first one I purchased failed to work, the shop swapped it straight away and I've had plenty of use since, mixture of home jobs and a few work related ones too. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
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Think I might have a problem............
Post #627475 28th May 2017 11:05pm
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Romadog



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Balancing an electric soldering iron in the front of a Defender is an art when doing dash wiring Whistle Evil or Very Mad
Easy to warm things up unintentionally !! Shocked

However they heat up perfectly for the task.
I use a butane gun for heating the heat shrink, however a jet flamed lighter is good as lightweight. Sometimes though you need to be able to direct the heat easily and a pen type is better

Hope this helps.
Post #627498 29th May 2017 8:42am
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miker



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In a vehicle application I'd argue that soldering makes the joint less secure, rather than more.
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Devon-Rover



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custom90steve wrote:
The Dremel has variable flow control. Does the Clarke one too?


yes you can twist the head to increase or decrease the flow ergo the heat produced. it comes with the head to act as a mini flame torch for applying heatshrink too.
I'll admit the flat solder head has started to erode but it is 5 odd years old now.
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rustandoil



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I borrow the Antex mains powered iron if I want to solder anything Thumbs Up
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Intercept



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For non-SMT electronic assembly/repair I've been a Weller fan for many years, but now my main soldering iron is one of these:

http://www.portasol.com/products_sc_r3.asp?sC_ID=112

Fully adjustable and comes with many different tips and good spares support. Its also good for heat-shrink and is a brilliant hot-knife for cutting rope and woven polypropylene weed control membrane. However... you need to be really careful with the exhaust, which vents through the side of the tip, as this will scorch or set fire to things in close proximity.

For big stuff I'll break out the 200 watt Weller Thumbs Up
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rustandoil



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Interesting the amount of love for gas powered irons, perhaps I should look into these ....
Post #627732 30th May 2017 12:35pm
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MadTom



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Gas powered for field repairs (Portasol is perfect), electrical powered for "home" work. For basic home work (wire soldering) something like this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Weller-100-Watt.../100085564, for tiny work some soldering station - I have Pace Icon2 - superb also for all SMT work, but a bit over for just few repairs.
And good heatshrinking tubes, preferable with some hot glue inside. It will mechanically fix the soldered joint. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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