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Hunky Gibbon01



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
CB radio grounding issue
Hi all. Question about grounding a cb aerial. I wanna use a clamp for the gutter but when I attempted there was no signal and the Meter was on max. Any advice on grounding? Cheers
Post #624478 15th May 2017 10:27pm
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MadTom



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I did it few weeks ago - I had to remove the paint of the gutter, to get good electrical contact, for the clamp. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #624527 16th May 2017 7:37am
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
On a previous 90 I fitted the C.B. so it was permanently in the vehicle and had the same problem after a phone call to the company that I bought it from suggested that I try fitting an earth to the Ariel fitting on the radio and it worked. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #624555 16th May 2017 10:03am
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Daisy90



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This on a puma by any chance ?
Post #624559 16th May 2017 10:40am
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Hunky Gibbon01



Member Since: 20 Mar 2017
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Yes 2.4 litre.
Post #624671 16th May 2017 6:56pm
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Daisy90



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That's interesting ,

I fitted a CB to a brand new puma pick up late last year,
I tried the original aerial hole in the wing,
Also fitted one to the back of the cab above the rear window,
Both of these had readings of the scale,

I cleaned to bare metal in both areas,
Changed leads and connectors,
Checked resistance and checked for shorts,

Took a chunky earth wire from the battery terminal or the aerial itself, to provide a food earth,

Even fitted my complete set up from my TD5 90

What ever I did I couldn't get it out of the red ?!

Spoke to the supplier, he even offered to take a look ( but is too far away to be honest)

However -- if I slung a large base magmount on the bonnet it would have a good reading straight away Rolling Eyes

I never got to the. Bottom of this issue ,

So not a lot of help for you, but I'm very interested in any other replies Thumbs Up

Cheers

Richard
Post #624678 16th May 2017 7:24pm
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MadTom



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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
Antenna and grounding - for proper work of any "standard" CB antenna on car, the grounding of antenna base is a must. And in must be very short - direct ground to car body, or few centimetre of wide "wire". Connecting a wire between antenna base and car battery is totally useless, as it is too long.
Car body works as second "half" of antenna - first half is the antenna wire itself. In the place of antenna base, there is place with low impedance (means low voltage, high current at 27 MHz) slowly transforming to high impedance on the end of antenna wire (nearly no current and very high voltage), where the high frequency power is radiated into the air. Without proper earth connection between antenna base and car body, you will loose a lot of energy (possible nearly all) in the antenna "centre" = between both halfs of the antenna (car body and antenna wire). This lost energy is lost both for transmitting and receiving.
Next is proper place for antenna - placing the antenna wire parallel to any metal parts, like next to the windshield is bad. Lot of radiated power from antenna is caught back, by the metal structure and virtually eliminated. Again both for transmitting and receiving. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #624772 17th May 2017 7:47am
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dantastic



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I installed an artificial ground plane after not being able to get a descent ground. Works really well.
One of these http://www.thunderpole.co.uk/fixed-body-mo...mount.html
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