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iandav123



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2006 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
110 rear P38 axle in a 90
Has anyone fitted a 110 P38 rear axle to a TDCi 90
Post #624320 15th May 2017 2:21pm
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Defendermatt



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I have one fitted, pretty straight forward.

Why would you want to fit one though?
Post #624322 15th May 2017 2:23pm
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iandav123



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I got a pair off a damaged low mileage 110 and there is a lot of wear in my 90's rear diff, requires discs etc so just thought might as well put it in if it fits easily
Post #624324 15th May 2017 2:28pm
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zsd-puma



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Why would you want to fit one though?


Stronger rear diff in the 110 than a 90. If the current axle is kaput then a 110 axle may well be easier to get hold of than a 90 one.
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iandav123



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Is the prop a different length and does it catch the fuel tank
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zsd-puma



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the 110 is longer, so it wont fit.

Well it will if you move the axle backwards by 20 inches. Laughing
Post #624329 15th May 2017 2:37pm
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Defendermatt



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You should have most of the parts to do the swap. A frame, trailing arms are the same. Spring seats need changing to 90 as the coils are different diameters.

You will need a prop spacer or new prop made to account for the shorter diff, or, I believe wolf 90s were fitted with the P38 diff so if you could find the P/N for the prop used on those then do share Wink

110 rear discs are larger, and the calipers have bigger diameter pistons in if you want to upgrade the brakes. I'm unsure if the 90 calipers will even fit though, the mounting holes may be different.
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blackwolf



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Alternatively you could fit the diff from the 110 front axle straight into the 90 rear axle.
Post #624341 15th May 2017 3:36pm
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iandav123



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I have already put the front diff and shafts in the axle as they were what originally failed Thats why I got these
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blackwolf



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Was it a four-gear front diff in the 110? If so, then you already have a stronger diff than the P38 four-gear.
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derbywill



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The 90 calipers should bolt on the axle case as I have 110 calipers and discs on my 90. I would just leave the 110 set up there isn't much difference, just remember when you change discs/pads you have 110 brakes fitted.

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
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Retroanaconda



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I wouldn't swap the rear brakes over, they are smaller on a 90 for a reason and you won't gain anything worthwhile.
Post #624376 15th May 2017 6:56pm
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iandav123



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so what do you do to stop it fowling fuel tank
Post #624445 15th May 2017 9:36pm
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Mash



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Defendermatt wrote:


You will need a prop spacer or new prop made to account for the shorter diff, or, I believe wolf 90s were fitted with the P38 diff so if you could find the P/N for the prop used on those then do share Wink
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Wolf 90 prop civvie part no: FRC8393 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #624447 15th May 2017 9:40pm
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Defendermatt



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It doesn't foul the fuel tank.

Thanks for the P/N mash!
Post #624496 15th May 2017 11:48pm
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