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Orangesofa



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Adding anti roll bars to a 90
So having owned a 90 without ARBs for nearly 3 years I have decided that the road manners need to be improved just a little. I am not looking for a fast road car nor am I looking to compromise the off road capabilities - I just need it to not hit the bump stops (resulting in occasional oversteer) on two corners in my daily commute.

I'd appreciate the thoughts of other members on the following:

    Can I get the improvements I need by fitting a standard ARB on the rear only or should I put one on the front as well?

    I see you can buy kits which include all the parts you need but they call-out that if you vehicle has never had bars fitted, there are other parts needed. What are these parts and how complex is the addition of the brackets to enable an ARB to be fitted?


Thoughts and experiences much appreciated. Phil
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pj2106



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
I did this to my td5 90 2 years ago and it made a huge improvement

I brought a set of take off standard roll bars of ebay

I brought new droplinks and mounting brackets

Took me about an hour to fit

Standard rear and front are enough but make sure you fit both not just rear otherwise can make vehicle unstable in corners

Trust me it's not a fun feeling 🙄🙄

Let me know if you need a hand with a link to parts and I'll try and find them for you

Hope this helps

PJ 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
2002 90 TD5 Hardtop (Sully) Sold
1998 300TDi D1 (Billy) Sold
Post #623993 14th May 2017 8:28am
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barbel jim



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green
Another vote for standard take offs. If youv'e not had any, the improvement is massive Whistle If you were looking at a go cart then yes upgrade the back, but I'd be lowering it as well. I run standard with Bilsteins which is more than enough Thumbs Up You will need the body mounting clamps and droplinks, (x4)
Post #624021 14th May 2017 10:40am
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Mo Murphy



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If you don't have the brackets on your axles you will need to buy them from someone like YRM and weld them on.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.
Post #624030 14th May 2017 11:50am
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blackwolf



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Re: Adding anti roll bars to a 90
Orangesofa wrote:
.. I just need it to not hit the bump stops (resulting in occasional oversteer) on two corners in my daily commute. ...


Shocked How fast do you drive?
Post #624288 15th May 2017 11:28am
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steve_c3



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I'm not sure how close it compares with the handling being a 110 but i fitted ARBs to my TD5 and it helped the road holding and got rid of a lot of the body roll too. I just got a set of new take offs and all the fixing holes were in place. I've got a bit of extra weight up top from the roll cage which didn't help the body roll beforehand but it certainly sits better on the road now.

When you say its hitting the bump stops, mine thumps a bit with a some steering wheel wobble if I catch a certain pot hole going round a corner on the way home from work but its just the play in the steering box! Another round to it!

This is a pic taken last year with them fitted and there was still a surprising amount of articulation.


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 2002 Defender 110 CSW TD5
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Orangesofa



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Re: Adding anti roll bars to a 90
blackwolf wrote:
Orangesofa wrote:
.. I just need it to not hit the bump stops (resulting in occasional oversteer) on two corners in my daily commute. ...


Shocked How fast do you drive?


The one corner is tree shrouded, gets silt washed onto it and is negative camber so a pretty nasty combination. I go around it at 25mph but try it at 30 and things begin to twitch in both me and the Rover.... Phil
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Pickles



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"Silt/Negative Camber"?...In a Defender, I'd be careful on that combination, no matter WHAT suspension I had!
Pickles.
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Procta



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Re: Adding anti roll bars to a 90
Orangesofa wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
Orangesofa wrote:
.. I just need it to not hit the bump stops (resulting in occasional oversteer) on two corners in my daily commute. ...


Shocked How fast do you drive?


The one corner is tree shrouded, gets silt washed onto it and is negative camber so a pretty nasty combination. I go around it at 25mph but try it at 30 and things begin to twitch in both me and the Rover....


admit it fella, you are after a bit tripod action Laughing
joke a side, I am looking to do the same, the 90 can be a bit unsettled with the wind on the A19. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Post #624888 17th May 2017 3:53pm
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Orangesofa



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
The latest...

Bought front and rear take-off ARBs from a 2014 Defender and fitted them on Monday. What a transformation!

Thanks for the advice - feels a lot safer on my commute. Phil
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huffhuff



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
Looking to do the same... where are people buying the new take-offs? (sorry to semi-hijack the thread)

Ta TD5 Defender 90
Discovery 3 HSE
Post #627909 31st May 2017 9:04am
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Orangesofa



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
eBay Phil
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huffhuff



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Ta - will go ebaying now Smile TD5 Defender 90
Discovery 3 HSE
Post #627939 31st May 2017 11:05am
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