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Grenadier



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2.4 upgrades
In the desire for more horses, we all know of the classic upgrades. ECU Remap, Larger intercooler, silicon hoses, straight through de-cat exhaust, EGR removal, better air filter, improved airbox and cool air intake and a VG Turbo. I think most who have done this, DIY or Stage 3 upgrade, see approx 200bhp. However, has anyone messed around with throttle bodies, camshafts, pistons and headers or is that pointless on a 2.4 or with a diesel engine? Also, has anyone considered a twin-turbo set up? Shocked Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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tobz102



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Diesel, therefore no tb

Likely be cheaper/less effort to buy and fit more powerful engine then change major internals tbh
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I would of liked those sort of figures, however ambient temperatures rule that out for any sort of engine life! However that been said, look at the LS3! Thumbs Up
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I believe 200+ hp and 500+ Nm was achieved previously. couldn't possibly confirm if internals are now in progress or not ...

on that note what sort of Nm to the ls3 achieve ?
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tobz102



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Just to elaborate on my throttle body post.

diesels vacuum draw the air required. Therefore on most diesels up to Euro 4 (inc 2.4 puma I believe) there's no throttle body. The 2.2 Euro5 does, but it's purpose is to improve the vacuum for drawing EGR gases for Euro 5, rather than for performance.
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Kit



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You can get allot of power out of them but it'll become massively laggy, it's not cheaper to get an engine swap but the drive-ability will be better with a big merc or cummins diesel.... however I (personally) wouldn't do that to a late defender

If your Defender is a toy/2nd car, then I don't see much harm and a good sequential turbo setup might be the ticket, if it's your only car... i'd advise against it and buy an SUV like an X5. 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
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zsd-puma



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a 5 cylinder 3.2 Puma engine is probably a better upgrade.

Lorry engines sound cool, but they're noisy for every day use, not very clean and thirsty.
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Kit



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I suppose it depends how deep your pockets are, as with most things in life 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
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zsd-puma wrote:
a 5 cylinder 3.2 Puma engine is probably a better upgrade.

Lorry engines sound cool, but they're noisy for every day use, not very clean and thirsty.


for the expense of it, the ls3 is more viable...
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zsd-puma



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for the expense of it, the ls3 is more viable...


I was replying to Kit's comment about lorry engines.
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Kit



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Cummins can be done for a fraction of the price of the 3.2 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
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zsd-puma



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thats very likely but as i said;

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Lorry engines sound cool, but they're noisy for every day use, not very clean and thirsty.
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Grenadier



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Just mulling over options. Might be able to do a full Stage 2 Bowler plus VGT in the next couple of months. Was wondering what else could be done at the same time. However, as of yesterday, a new deal might make the LS3 an option. But given I am developing a business concept, plus we may finally be tackling the renovation of our barn (400sqm Shocked ), then it would be remiss of me to chuck loads of valuable cash at the LS3 unless all other options are properly financed. Stage3 tune I could accept, plus extras like brakes, sussies etc, as they have already been budgeted for, money put to one side. Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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