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timtom1



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Alveston Red
Wiper motor location TD5 Defender 90
Hi all,

I have a 51 reg TD5 defender 90

My wiper rack had corroded so I bought a new one; managed to install it ok but I took the motor out with my farther-in-law.

I didn't see the correct position before he took it out and I am now struggling to get the wipers to fully rotate when I screw the motor back in the holes with the bracket.

I dismantled the dash but it doesn't seem to want to turn the wipers properly, and the motor moves quite a bit.

Has anybody got any pics of the wiper motor in position with the wiper rack? There is now a slight bend in the wiper rack.

I will take some pics tomorrow morning.

Thanks

Tim Big Cry 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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LandRoverAnorak



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By chance, I have mine in bits at the moment. This was taken before I dismantled it so I could put it back together again!
It's from a '92 tdi but shouldnt' be too different.


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 Darren

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timtom1



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Thanks for the reply, I will look again tomorrow, my mounting holes are so it mounts vertical 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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timtom1



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Here are the holes that my motor can fit too.


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This is the motor fitted how I think it goes???


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But the dashboard won't fit and it either gets stuck on the piece of metal above or the dash.

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and here is the wiper rack...



I do have a video of it moving I will try to upload to youtube

So as it stands at the moment the wiper motor with moves and gets stuck on things or the rotation of the wiper is only small.

I'm stuck done everything I can think of.

Help 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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timtom1



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video of the problem

https://youtu.be/l4OSof1qVBY 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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aaronjp1990



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Is your wiper boxes free? Looks like the motor is pushing agains something.
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LandRoverAnorak



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Ah, ok. It is quite different after all. A quick Google for images suggests that your motor isn't positioned correctly. It looks like it should be more vertical so that the drive out is essentially a straight line, and that the gearbox tucks behind the angled metal structure of the dash top.

The pictures I've found aren't brilliant but may help:


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Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green  Darren

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timtom1



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thanks for the reply guys.

The is getting stuck.

On the drivers side should the wiper rack protrude through the tube at the end?

Although I've been trying tonight and got the rack completely stuck, the motor had caused a kink in it because it was pushing and not going anywhere.

Any ideas on how to budge the seized rack on the cogs?

Or should I give up and go to a garage now..

Thanks

Tim 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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dorsetsmith



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wiper rack protrude through the tube at the end? (not) two different length made by LR but all i did having the same problems year go placed shore piece tub over end
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timtom1



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It is now stuck solid I can't move it either way.

Once it was on the driver side cog it got stuck.

Any ideas? This is turning into a nightmare 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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dorsetsmith



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wiper boxes ok both side
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timtom1



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I can't get to the drivers side because the blower is in the way.

I've had the console off but can't get one screw out. However I'm going to try and unscrew the wiper box tomorrow with the blower still there.

I've manadged to free one side.

The saga continues 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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davew



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How did you fit the rack ?

Did you remove the wiper arms and feed it through the spindle gearboxes so they spun as you fed it through ?

I wonder if you've got the older style rack instead of the newer one... the older one being longer by around 6 inches... http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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timtom1 wrote:
I can't get to the drivers side because the blower is in the way.

I've just been through all of this with mine. You need to take out the instrument binnacle and probably the plastic cowl that it fits into in order to get at the screws that hold the windscreen blower in place. I say probably as I have a Raptor metal cowl that has different cut outs to the standard one, so I didn't need to remove that bit.

The rack that you've replaced passes through three metal tubes - one either end and one between the wiper wheel boxes. If you've put a new one in without slackening off the connections between the tubes and wheel boxes then it's probably just kinked as it' passed through. The only real solution is to strip out the top of the dash to gain access.

The rack shouldn't project out beyond the end of the end tube on the drivers side. The one I've just fitted was a lot longer than the one I took out so it was necessary to cut it down to suit with a hacksaw and then file off the end until it was smooth. Darren

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timtom1



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davew wrote:
How did you fit the rack ?

Did you remove the wiper arms and feed it through the spindle gearboxes so they spun as you fed it through ?

I wonder if you've got the older style rack instead of the newer one... the older one being longer by around 6 inches...


Yeah this is what I did, I've measured it against the one that came out and the new one is about the same. I got it from land rover and gave my vin 2001 90 TD5 CSW Alveston Red Manual
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