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defender9



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Series 1's for sale
Since the end of Defender production there seems to be a lot of Series I's in various conditions from a pile of scrap to fully restored vehicles for sale; also a lot repatriated vehicles from Australia and Minervas from Belgium. Scrap and parts seem to sell pretty well which I assume is down to the heightened interest in old Land Rovers and the drying up of ex MOD parts. Prices for both second hand and new parts to me (a person who was used to buying cheap MOD parts from the likes of Jacksons) are horribly expensive IMO and I'm glad I don't need to buy anything other than service items for my Series 1.

I do bemoan the fact that years ago parts were sensibly priced, were swapped or even given to a friend who needed a particular part. These days and particularly on Ebay every component seems to be stripped to its individual small part and put up for sale to maximise the potential profit. Perhaps its supply and demand or me getting old but the hobby of having and running an Old Land Rover now just seems to be a money making exercise with too many people jumping on the band wagon rather than the enthusiasts hobby it once was. Over the last several years I have taken stuff to various Autojumbles to downsize my spare parts collection and have sold much of it at what I would call enthusiast prices but after seeing the same parts appear on Ebay a week later at a vastly inflated price I only would let people I know well have them.

Blimey reading the above sounds depressing Shocked so on a brighter note I shall take out my Defender for a run for no other reason than I can Very Happy
Post #613251 30th Mar 2017 11:39am
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ian series 1



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Sadly the days of NOS parts are nearly at an end, especially the very early stuff.
It's either been found and sold on, or the time sensitive parts (rubber seals etc) have all but withered away!

Although saying that, it's still surprising what's out there if you look hard enough,
NOS 1600 engine block on EBay right now! never thought one of them would turn up?
Seized 1600s are still fetching a premium and would still cost around 5k to get them back to health Shocked

It's got to the stage for me, where my collection of good spares and spare engines actually equates to a small gold mine!
So then it makes you think do you keep it, or cash in?
Everyone says it's going to dip soon? but the demand for parts seems to be ever increasing?
I was selling at Newbury, and had a few 80" parts, not much, and most of it was left over from previous restorations, people were going nuts for it! And not bothering to haggle either!
A lot of it sold before it even got out of the van.
Some people seemed quite desperate.
It was all sold at enthusiast prices, as I would rather help someone get their old series back on the road,
I've been in that situation and people selling were good to me, so I'm happy to return the favour.

Another factor is now Land Rover are building series 1s many of the specialist part suppliers, especially panels (which there was only one chap doing this, Keith Wadsworth) have now had to keep up with demand from them, so joe public are having to wait a few years now for wings etc..

It is a sad fact that early 1s are now big money to restore and own,
But slowly all the others will go along the same route.

I brought a series 3 while they are still relatively cheap, as one day they will be unobtainable too, it may seem the country is littered with them, but give it another 10 years....

Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #613261 30th Mar 2017 12:19pm
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Kit



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I've got 2 series 1, one is in a thousand peices, so this is not welcome news
Post #613280 30th Mar 2017 1:20pm
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Slideywindows



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I couldn't agree more, defender9.

Been a member of the Series One Club since 1980 and still am, but I am so unhappy with the way things have gone that I don't go on their forum any more, or participate in activities.

The Series Two Club is better, in my opinion.

However, early coilers are now my thing.


Hardly ever drive my 4 Series Ones any more.......
Post #613683 31st Mar 2017 9:52pm
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Likeomg



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If anyone wants to donate a series 1 at a non ludicrous price... pm me Very Happy
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Andy80



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Slideywindows wrote:
I couldn't agree more, defender9.

Been a member of the Series One Club since 1980 and still am, but I am so unhappy with the way things have gone that I don't go on their forum any more, or participate in activities.

The Series Two Club is better, in my opinion.

However, early coilers are now my thing.


Hardly ever drive my 4 Series Ones any more.......



I might not be as senior as some Whistle but i have been crazy about Land Rovers since i was 13 and will have owned One of my S1's for 20 years in a couple months....

I used read old LRO magazines cover to cover 50 times a month but now would read any of the magazines within 3 minutes.

Now I'm finding less instreast now Utility Land Rovers were deemed fashionable (thus expensive) and likewise to Slidey Windows drive my 2 Series maybe a handful times a year.

I have noted prices are residing a little but not sure about where it will all end!!

Andy Working towards Carry on camping!
Post #613738 1st Apr 2017 9:46am
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seriesonenut



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We have just had an engine re built and the engineer told us he now has a 2 year waiting list as he has won the contract for Land Rover re building the engines for the company. A real specialist working in not much more than a large shed. From the line up of engines waiting to be re built Land Rover don't expect the bubble to burst any time soon!
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ian series 1



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[quote

I have noted prices are residing a little but not sure about where it will all end!!


I think that's down to EBay being flooded with either badly restored ones, or people who think that their 10% original one that's sat in their barn for 30 years is now worth 40k!

From what I can see, good original, or exceptionally re built ones are still fetching the premium prices,
People don't seem to realise if you just spent 10k on an 80" that's missing most of the correct parts, it will probably cost another 10k to put it right, (that's if you can find all those goodies?)

I wouldn't do another one, it all seems way out of hand now, I too am scared to use mine that often incase it either gets stolen, or some idiot drives into me!
Which is a shame, but the risk is too great now Shocked 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #613764 1st Apr 2017 12:35pm
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Kit



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The 80" are pretty horrible to actually drive, both of ours are 88"
Post #613773 1st Apr 2017 1:05pm
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ian series 1



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I think it's more of an 80" drives itself, you mearly point it in the direction you think it should go! Laughing
You just have to get use to 1940/50 driving style.

Saying that, the one I've just done drives lovely, recon box, everything else rebuilt or new, feels nice and responsive, and light on the steering and holds it's line very well.

The 86" is a joy to drive with the later steering box. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #613777 1st Apr 2017 1:39pm
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Kit



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Yeah its like driving a fast old tractor, it's the pedals that I dislike in the 80"
Post #613780 1st Apr 2017 1:50pm
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JJ



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It's not just the series motors that have been ridiculously priced recently but the whole stable right through to 2.2 Puma. I have a 1989 V8 currently being refurbished and it has taken 18 months to find parts at a price I am prepared to pay and I have seen some rubbish in that 18 months that has sold Shocked

I do think the later models are coming off their top prices and will subside a little now but the early models up to series 3 are only going to go one way. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response
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Slideywindows



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Early One Tens and early Ninetys in anything like original condition are heading the same way too.

So if you have one, don't bling it!
Post #613876 1st Apr 2017 9:36pm
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Slideywindows



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seriesonenut wrote:
We have just had an engine re built

Would that be your early 2lt diesel engine, Mr Seriesonenut?

If so, I'm impressed! Thumbs Up

C.
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seriesonenut



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That might be telling, but now you come to mention it........When the time comes fancy helping us to start it for the first time?
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