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tobz102



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
GPS tracker current draw
Should I be concerned hard wiring a tracker from the perm live of my battery? 12v in 5v 1a out, vehicle left for maximum 10 days every 3-4months. (Though could leave on trickle during this period). Anyone have experience of them going flat due to trackers?
Post #612467 27th Mar 2017 9:55am
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Harry.O



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
There shouldn't have a problem leaving it for 10 days. I have fitted Skytags to a few LRs which are parked up for long durations and the vehicle battery seems to last about 8 weeks before going flat. You could always leave the vehicle on a battery charger if you have one?
Post #612524 27th Mar 2017 1:04pm
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AMBxx



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
I have 2 trackers. One proper one and one 'sacrificial' one. I was having problems with the alarm triggering when starting the engine after leaving for more than a few days. I've now wired the sacrificial tracker so that it only charges when the engine is running. Problem solved.

You many not have any problems at all, but if you do, it's easy enough to fix.
Post #612537 27th Mar 2017 1:42pm
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
when you're talking about 5V, that sounds like you're using something USB powered?

My Defender started up with no issues at about freezing point having been parked for a fortnight a few months ago. That's with a Skytag and the original 2011 battery. I have since wired the tracker in to the second battery.

Annoyingly, when I asked Skytag how much power it used they were extremely non committal.
Post #612696 27th Mar 2017 9:36pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Mine's been parked up for a couple of weeks until today, started fine.

If your battery is in good condition, then it shouldn't be a problem.
Post #612721 27th Mar 2017 10:19pm
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Thon



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1A at 5V is approximately 0.6A at 12V (ignoring conversion/transformer losses) if my basic maths and ohms law is correct.
How many amp-hours is your battery? It's a relatively simple sum to see how many hour battery will last I think?
If your battery is 100 Amp-hours then it will be depleted in 167 hours, which equates to a week. However, it may be that your vehicle alarm and other systems may cope once the battery voltage drops too far below 12V.

I hope my understanding of this is correct - hopefully someone well-versed in electrickery can correct me but it sound like a pretty high current draw for a tracker. My 110 (with tracker) will sit for more than 2 weeks of disuse without a problem.
Post #612727 27th Mar 2017 10:33pm
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AMBxx



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
It won't be drawing full current all the time. I'd expect the tracker to consume different power depending upon the signal strength (same as a phone). My Defender is in an area with poor signal, plus it's in a locked garage so signal very poor. Will use more power than one parked in the open 100 yards from a mobile mast.
I'd guess that's why the manufacturer is so resistant to giving out any numbers.
Post #612781 28th Mar 2017 7:41am
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Thon



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Yes of course you don't know the average current drawn but in addition to that you don't know the minimum threshold for your car battery to provide enough power for the alarm, immobiliser, starter, etc.
Mine was previously fitted with a c-tek but I know was left for many months on end without being driven. I've never topped up the 10 year old battery and it lasts over 2 weeks and will start at - 7 degrees but I would probably trickle charge it If I were leaving it much longer.
Post #612784 28th Mar 2017 7:55am
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
My D3 V8 is regulary parjed up for long times. Sometimes a few months as I use my 90 for the shorter runs. Twisted Evil The D3 pulls a lot off power even if not used so I killed already 2 batteries thyis way.
I now have a 30W solar panel behind the front windscreen. That is probably not enough for over the winter but like now it keeps my battery charged. Roel

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Post #612786 28th Mar 2017 8:07am
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tobz102



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Thanks for the replies, I think the likely solution will be to leave on trickle during extended periods but other than that it should be fine. I'll measure the draw before/after I fit it
Post #612867 28th Mar 2017 4:34pm
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srod



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It won't be drawing anywhere near 1A. More like 0.1A or less average per hour I would guesstimate.

I suppose however it's an added security feature if it flattens the battery as at least the car is the immobilised 😀
Post #612886 28th Mar 2017 6:19pm
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Hi,

I have a Skytag fitted to mine and on more than one occasion over last three years she's been parked up outside for a three week stints and never had a problem. Defender Puma 110XS SW
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Post #614564 4th Apr 2017 9:55pm
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nitram17



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I have a skytag and a 2014 defender ..original battery..after 10 days of no use it will be flat!i cannot understand how anyone gets longer....its a simple live feed and earth..........can someone enlighten?
Post #614572 4th Apr 2017 10:14pm
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Defender2014



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I have no answer, also on original battery.....

Unless when I'm enjoying my G&T on the cruise ship the cheeky Censored are joyriding around Southampton in her Confused

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Post #614580 4th Apr 2017 10:39pm
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nitram17



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/\/\/\/\Have you checked yiour skytag is working.........skytag may be just sending you automatic e mails that its working ....try disconecting the battery and see if you get a warning from skytag...i hope mine is working as it takes me half an hour and lots of elbow grease to access it.
Post #614585 4th Apr 2017 11:00pm
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