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lambert.the.farmer



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Older people and driving
Hi. I have become increasingly concerned with the standard of driving of a neighbour, I know that you have to reapply once you are over 70 but it seems to be a paper exercise, unless a dvla investigation is started. I don't want the individual to know of my involvement and yes I could turn a blind eye but they're a liability to themselves and others. How anonymous is the dvla process? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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Laurie



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There are a large number of elderly people who are perfectly adequate drivers (I'm 74) and a large number of young/middle age drivers who's ability is questionalbe.
Please DON'T dump all elderly drivers into the same pigeonhole. 
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The DVLA say these sorts of reports are treated in the strictest confidence. There's even a web form for the purpose:

https://emaildvla.direct.gov.uk/emaildvla/...ed_03.html

It's not age-specific, of course. It could be used to report anyone. Darren

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David T



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Indeed there are a large number of elderly people who are adequate drivers, just as there are large numbers of elderly people who are inadequate ones. Mainly due to physical infirmities, eyesight deteriation and slow reflexes along with the typical Percy Sugden "I've been driving since the Battle of Crecy and I pay my road tax" type attitude.

Lambert, if you have doubts, nip over the field to Cardale Park and have a quiet word with the desk sarge.

I ride motorcycles, I've experienced many near misses, caused by crap drivers of all ages, sexes and ethnicity but, without doubt, WITHOUT DOUBT, the worst moments have been caused by elderly drivers who seem totally oblivious to other road users, to their own stupidity and to the fact that they have just almost killed me.

I'm 60, I intend to grow old, that's why I pay particular attention whenever I see a Honda Jazz, the weapon of choice for the homicidal geriatrics in Harrogate.
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leeds



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Agree with Laurie as I am over state pension age.

Worst drivers I see are young inexperienced drivers. Then there are the drivers who do not understand what an amber traffic light means let alone a red traffic light. Then there are the idiots who do not know what a give way sign means or an advanced stop line mean!


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There is a fine line between being old and a bit careful because you aren't processing information as quickly, and being unsafe to be in charge of a motor vehicle.

This chap mentioned here: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic53137.html was 83 and could out drive anyone on here.

However, people hang on to their driving licences too long when they know they are wrong to do so. It's a hard decision to dob someone in, take away their freedom. But you are doing to potentially save someone's life. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info
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I reckon the middle aged are the worst, too over confident.
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lambert.the.farmer



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I am not tarring all elderly drivers. But the person in question is eligible for a blue badge on account of their limited movement and is waiting for another hip op. They have the mental capacity(enough to work out who has reported them) to drive and the experience just not the physical capacity. I am extremely reticent about being involved in this but equally a sense of social responsibility for not letting them cause an accident. Arghhhh conflicted. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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williamthedog



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I think that when you reach 70 you should have to retake your test.
If your reaction time and eye sight are ok I haven't got a problem with it.
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lambert.the.farmer



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That was what I thought happened with the new license, taking the onus off the likes of me, Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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Fill out the form, be as factual as possible (no hearsay or hypotheticals).

Wait a day then read it back aloud, see how you feel...

Send it or don't send it.

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^^^ that is good advice for many situations.
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Interesting that old, middle aged and inexperienced (read young in that word) have all been mentioned so far in this post for poor driving standards, think the moral of this is regardless of age none of us is as good a driver as we think we are Laughing 2015 HT XS 90
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Pickles



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Laurie wrote:
There are a large number of elderly people who are perfectly adequate drivers (I'm 74) and a large number of young/middle age drivers who's ability is questionalbe.
Please DON'T dump all elderly drivers into the same pigeonhole.

Agree, I'm 72.
I ain't saying I'm a good driver, or a bad one, I reckon I'm average.
I don't hog the passing lane, I don't tail gate, I am careful, & I am respectful of other road users, even when I "give way" when I don't have to, but I do so for the safety of myself, and my car, and yes, I do like to "put the pedal to the metal" when I can, which is not very often these days, because of radar, speed cameras & all sorts of other devices. If we are in Gracie our Defender, I will always pull over if necessary to let faster cars get by.
I've also done OK at AMG drive days, & others for HSV etc.
Yes there are some elderly drivers that shouldn't be on the road, but in all honesty, I see squillions more young irresponsible drivers EVERY day that don't give a stuff about other road users, or seemingly themselves for that that matter,...the number of cars driven by these "hoons", & impounded by Police, is increasing at a rapid rate all the time.
I reckon the main complaint about some old drivers is that they're slow, & perhaps this is a valid statement, but it's not such a bad issue when one sees the antics of some of these irresponsible younger drivers who are a danger to all on the road, including themselves.
The traffic in Melbourne is horrendous, seems to get worse all the time, grid locks everywhere, not even in peak hour. I dislike driving in these conditions, I can, but I don't like it. Wifey loves any excuse to drive her Audi RS3, so she does most of the driving in the City, but when we're cruising on a trip, in the country, away for a few days, it's pretty hard to get me out of Gracie's driver's seat!....so yes, I still love to drive.
Pickles.
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Had to stop my MIL from driving as eyesight was falling. Stubborn lady just went out and bought another car. One minor self-inflicted accident later I arranged for her licence removal. Did not feel guilty
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