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| Ramajama Member Since: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Heartland, ‘Murica Posts: 109  
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I believe that silhouette was at the Velar launch during a press meeting. McGovern pointed at it when he spoke of the Defender. He said its nearly ready for debut. If the silhouette is an indication, which its shows to be true to other models, then I am cautiously optimistic about the Defender. But it still looks a bit too much like the DC100 for my tastes. Guys, it will be a modern vehicle. Its going to be tough and its going to MUCH more single focused than Disco and RR families. It will come in affordable models all the way up to super posh trims. Should be something for everyone. I know the wait and time lapse before the new model comes out is ridiculous but Relax a bit and wait till you actually see it. They would have had itt out much sooner but they did have to scrap the whole thing and start over at one point because they know they have to do it right and not half ass it. It'll be badass. |
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9th Mar 2017 4:50am |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952 
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Ross, we'll have to disagree about hydrogen. For a while, it looked like being the future, but its problems are too large. Hydrogen is way too expensive, and thus expensive to convert a current engined car. You'll never see anyone put a hydrogen pack into a Defender, whereas electric Defenders have already been done. There is also the slight, yet serious, risk of a huge explosion in an accident. There is no hydrogen infrastructure, whereas the electric infrastructure is literally everywhere. Battery cars have just one solitary problem, range. We're at the stage in the technology where we can push it to 300 miles now. The mileage curve is a steep one though, and a 500-mile range car isn't that far away. There is an enormous amount of money being invested by companies to crack it. Fast charging currently means an 80% charge in just 25 minutes. I'm often in busy petrol stations that takes 10 minutes (to fill and queue to pay), so that's just an extra 15 minutes - you could have a coffee!
I have a BMW i3, and I really can't see myself EVER going back to fuel. I really mean that. My next car has got to be a hybrid, at least. I absolutely love my i3, and so does anyone who sits in it for a spin. The range of 125 miles just isn't an issue at all. |
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9th Mar 2017 9:11am |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Mike, actually power companies can easily cope with electric car demands - so long as they are largely nocturnal. The commercial draw is about 22,000 MW during the day, but drops to 8,000 MW at night, leaving a huge drop-gap. Similarly, domestic draw is almost 20,000 (day) but merely 4,000 at night. Again, a big gap that could be filled by car charging. Overall, the gap between night and day draw is 25,000 Megawatts - that can and will be exploited. My roots are in the gas industry, and the talk of smart meters has been rumbling on for decades now - to get people to use the night-time electricity that is there. That's why the government is so keen to get people to adopt smart meters - they'll be able to raise the price of daytime electricity (and they certainly will) to coerce people on to night-time use. The downside to this, is that people will be running washing machines and tumble dryers in the middle of the night (just wait and see) to take advantage of the cheaper rate - meaning some neighbourly disputes. The government will also be able to shut your power off from an office in Wokingham. The battle about smart meters has yet to be engaged...
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9th Mar 2017 9:40am |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3693
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"has some real GRUNT under the bonnet"
Pickles, here in the UK it will be a 2.0d more than likely.... Its all about emissions / tax / MPG now  |
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9th Mar 2017 10:07am |
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| Huego Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Bristol Posts: 13
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As I understand it in layman's terms, having an off-road terrain system connected up to electric axles would be a game changer..?
Can someone tell me of any mainstream EV 4x4s already on the market for comparison? |
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9th Mar 2017 11:24am |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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9th Mar 2017 1:21pm |
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| Huego Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Bristol Posts: 13
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do one.
honest curious question from an enthusiast. bye |
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9th Mar 2017 1:23pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Huego. Honest answer - there aren't any, hence the tumbleweed! It wasn't meant personally.
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9th Mar 2017 1:38pm |
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| Farmerben Member Since: 16 Jan 2017 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 604 
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Not sure if anyone else has been on the Series 1 Land Rover Reborn tour at Solihull but just got back (it was short but awesome). Guy running the tour (chap named Darryl) gave us some info (whether or not it's true, we'll have to wait and see).....
Planning to build 100,000 units a year Production split over Solihull and Slovakia (neither factory big enough for entire production) Bigger than old defender but very similar in style (more than the dc100) Three wheel bases Available in hard top, truck cab and station wagon More capable than any other 4x4 currently on the market Will be released to press in 14 months He pretty much said "thats all i can tell ypu, dont bother asking any more". So, still a bit of a wait then...... https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews |
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9th Mar 2017 2:18pm |
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| Stuff Member Since: 06 Feb 2017 Location: Between cradle and grave Posts: 41 |
See JLR press release 18 months ago on their electric drive research:
http://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2015/0...n-research I guess that some of this technology will find its way into iPace and other members of the JLR family. Also, they're developing a new "Transcend" gearbox (see within this Ingenium press release): http://media.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2016...ain-family |
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9th Mar 2017 2:31pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5024 
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I think you might want to do some research on that - JLR and many others have been making massive noise about lack of good infrastructure to deliver electric cars: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/...land-rover http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry...inds-trial [/quote] Mike |
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9th Mar 2017 5:32pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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Well lets hope that the bring the model out as a Petrol engine with the option of a dirty, shortly to be banned, diesel for those so minded to buy one. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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9th Mar 2017 5:45pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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So much conjecture about seven squiggly lines. I have some straw blowing about here if anyone would like to clutch some.
 Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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9th Mar 2017 7:53pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3751  
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Very interesting....."100,000" is what it's all about isn't it,....a long way from the 15000max they were doing prior to production ending By the way, a long time ago, I used to live at Vowchurch,...not far from you,...but a long way from me now! Pickles. |
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9th Mar 2017 10:36pm |
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