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DerekV



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2015 TDCI Horn Connector
Hi,
I wonder if anyone could advise.
I am having trouble trying to find out what connector is used on the horn of a 2015 Defender. I am planning to fit an air horn and want to take a feed from the existing horn to trigger the air horn relay, but don't want to cut the existing horn wiring, so I was planning on making up a short cable with a wire coming off it to the relay, with a connector on each end that would plug in between the existing horn wire and the horn itself, but I can't seem to find out what connector is used anywhere! I originally thought it was an econoseal connector, but it doesn't seem to be - it's a small grey sealed connector of some other type!

I'd be really grateful if anyone could advise as to what connector this could be. I can provide a photo if that would be useful.

Thanks in advance.

Derek.
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Sadi



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Air horn..
Derek - don't know if I am helpful here. Had an air horn installed - in the kit there was a switch - so that you could switch between normal horn and air horn. Auto electronics not my strong point - so I had a technician and fellow Defender club member install it.
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Photo would be useful. Thumbs Up Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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blackwolf



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I think that they are standard 2-pin Econoseal connectors.
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DerekV



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Thanks for your replies everyone!!

Here's a photo of the connector. Sorry it's not the greatest but it's pretty awkward to get at!!

I've just noticed that there seems to be a number on the back - 985324-1 - and Googling it brings up an Italian eBay listing for a similar looking connector, so that may be it, but if so I'm not sure I'm going to be able to get hold of one in the UK.

Assuming I'm not able to get one, does anyone know what size wire (mm2) is used for the horn, as I'll probably have to use a Posi-Tap connector but they're pretty specific with their sizing!

Thanks.

Derek.
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blackwolf



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That's an AMP connector used inter alia on BMWs. Definitely not the Econoseal I thought it was sorry! Also (I think) used on Disco 2 horns.

Edit: update - just for the record, Disco2 horns and Defender horns have totally different connectors and are not directly interchangeable.

Last edited by blackwolf on 25th Feb 2017 3:10pm. Edited 1 time in total
Post #600173 8th Feb 2017 7:52pm
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DerekV



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Ah right, thanks blackwolf. Do you know where I could try to get one of those (and the male half) in the UK (Google turns up nothing), and also do you know if an econoseal crimper would work to crimp the terminals?

Also, do you know what wire size is used on the horn?

Thanks.

Derek.
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blackwolf



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Offhand I'm afraid not, but I have a spare wing harness somewhere. If I can find it I might be able to figure out the wire size. It is unlikely that the crimps will be too specialised and I imagine an Econoseal type tool will do the job.
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apt100



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According to the electrical reference manual C003 and C004 are MQS series, LR part number YPC110600, wire is size 0.75 and terminals are LR part number YPL101510 if that is any use?
(doesn't directly help with the mating connector, but it might be a start)
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DerekV



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Thanks blackwolf and apt100! That's really useful info. Just need to find a mating connector now and I'll be sorted! If I can't find one I'll just use the posi tap now I know what the wire size is.

Thanks again for your help everyone!

Derek.
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apt100



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https://onedrive.live.com/?id=4BC2D89C85C7...9C85C7C171

BTW I got the documents from here if you are interested - helpfully posted by a member on previous threads Thumbs Up
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DerekV



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Just a correction - the number written on the connector was actually 965324-1, not 985324-1!! I think I'll try writing to a shop that sells these connectors to see if they can suggest a mating one.

Derek.
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DerekV



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apt100 wrote:
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=4BC2D89C85C7C171%21552&cid=4BC2D89C85C7C171

BTW I got the documents from here if you are interested - helpfully posted by a member on previous threads Thumbs Up


Ah wow, that's incredibly useful, I've been looking for a workshop manual for ages!! Thanks!
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I can supply a mating connector for these, drop me a PM Smile  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Any Durite supplier should be able to get them, or Paul at LRconnectors is an absolute gent and a legend for this stuff.
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