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What do you think now?
I always liked it
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I hated it but now reluctantly accept it
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I hated it then and still do
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 46%  [48]
I hated it then but love it now
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AndrewS



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Are you getting used to it yet?

I put this gallery up in Oct 2011 just after the DC100 was shown as a concept. Can you remember how you felt back then? Its been over 6 years so I was wondering how you all feel now? have you grown to like it or accept it or do you still hate it?

I know that these two pics are the concept but it gives you an idea.


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 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile

Post #594034 18th Jan 2017 9:34am
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What puddle?



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It looked great then, it looks great now. LR made a mistake in not producing it. Funny, isn't it; if it had been released, the updated version would be coming out by now. But no, here we are, years on, and still no frickin new Defender. Pathetic. Makes my blood boil.

Post #594041 18th Jan 2017 9:54am
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GREENI



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Liked it! V8 Scumbag

Post #594042 18th Jan 2017 9:54am
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JJ



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I like it as a car but not as a replacement for what I currently have. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response

Post #594043 18th Jan 2017 9:55am
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AndrewS



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^^^^ JJ that has got to be the best response I have ever heard regarding the Defender V New Defender Bow down Bow down 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile

Post #594048 18th Jan 2017 10:09am
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Wild Card 90



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver

Good thread, Andrew Thumbs Up

I disiliked it back then, but now think it is very close to the mark!

Two relatively minor criticisms of the then shown concept.

I felt that the front facia (grille, headlamps) should be a little closer to upright. The angled front gives it a touch too much VW/Skoda Yeti. Upright would look more "tool-like" and functional, without losing any of the modern design character.

And the seating position was too low in relation to bonnet and windscreen.

One of the wonderful and eccentric things about the old Defender is its commanding view down over the front. It affects how you feel when driving the vehicle. Something that was carried over into the Range Rover and Discovery. I donīt want to sit sportscar low in a Defender. The dash should be shorter and more upright than a normal passenger car, and the seating higher.
My guess is that the seating position will now be up there, like the Range Rover Thumbs Up 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs,
Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons

Post #594049 18th Jan 2017 10:13am
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Ramsay



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United Kingdom 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green

I need a none of the above option.
The side treatments are fine.
Front and rear have serious issues and need rethinking.
Wheels are ridiculous
It misses how it will be a Utility vehicle. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight

Post #594104 18th Jan 2017 1:59pm
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Rosco



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Much as JJ said, I like that now and I liked it when it first previewed, but whether I'd consider it as a like for like replacement with my defender is another question.

Did they ever do a LWB mock up?

I know the purists weren't keen, but eventually it has to evolve or die. The Jaguar purists hated the idea of a diesel FWD estate. Without the X-type I reckon the Jaguar brand would be another in the long list of once great, but now deceased British motor manufacturers 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW

Post #594105 18th Jan 2017 2:01pm
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Huego



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Address the front and (lower) rear end and I'd buy one. I like the angular windows / roof line on side profile a lot!

Post #594108 18th Jan 2017 2:10pm
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AndrewS



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Ramsay wrote:
Wheels are ridiculous


The pics above are the concept and not what will be on the production vehicles Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile

Post #594109 18th Jan 2017 2:34pm
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Green Machine



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It's definitely grown on me. I wasn't very keen when it first appeared, but I actually quite like it now. There are still aspects that I don't really like, but I think the general concept is pretty good. I think I'd tend to agree with others that I don't really see it as a Defender replacement, more like a new totally different LR model, but I doubt that I would see anything as a Defender replacement. If whatever comes to market in the end is along the lines of the DC100 concept, I'd probably be quite interested. 2005 Td5 | 90 County Station Wagon | Tonga Green

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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Arles Blue

It still looks like a Skoda Yeti. I'm sure it'd be a great car but it's not a Defender. 
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Eduardo



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

100% agree with JJ. Bow down Bow down
Could be a nice car but I will not feel confortable in put it in, for example, the Patagonian roads or the northern desert. Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #594128 18th Jan 2017 3:59pm
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Buzzsaw



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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Cairns Blue

Really grown on me too!

As for it looking like a Yeti....I love the Yeti too so even better! Very Happy

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Setok



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It's ok but a bit Skoda. It's better than the new Disco and could work as its replacement. But as it is it's still not really a 'Defender' (as many have noted).

I dislike how some say things have to develop. That's not my issue — there are many things in the Defender that I wish were better. But I'd like something that continues with what made me like the Defender so much (and what many still cherish, even today).

What could be interesting as a challenge: if an engineer were to create a new Defender, based on the goals of the car, what would it look like without any input from a designer? I mean that's basically how the original Land Rover was created...

Post #594208 18th Jan 2017 8:05pm
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