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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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Video of incident in link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-40...sland.html |
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16th Dec 2016 8:05am |
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| RoddyK05 Member Since: 08 Apr 2015 Location: Inverclyde Posts: 633  
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Oops
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16th Dec 2016 9:53am |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3693
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Looks like the Landy driver was Jeremy Clarkson...
Speeeeeeeeeeeddd I see no reason why he went to fast and then stopped suddenly? |
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16th Dec 2016 10:14am |
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| RoadForce Member Since: 17 Jul 2014 Location: Holland Posts: 323  
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It is a kinetic recovery strap, you need to build up tension / stretch it to increase the pulling effect. Defender 130 HCPU Td5 MY2000 |
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16th Dec 2016 12:54pm |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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ah, good to know...
learning learning Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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16th Dec 2016 1:01pm |
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| Vogler Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Brussels Posts: 309  
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If you have an evening or two to spare: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Recovery/index.html Greetings, Joris |
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16th Dec 2016 1:32pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7873 
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I must admit I do have a little sympathy for the car driver. I'm not quite sure why the Defender stopped so soon? I suspect the car driver thought whilst they had momentum they would keep going until off the deep sand, which they were still on.
Thanks for the link Joris I could with learning! Still need to get a basic recovery 'kit'. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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16th Dec 2016 5:18pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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My Internet is a little slow to watch the vid but the last thing I would of done is use a Kenetic rope on a car like that, the recovery point is not build for that type of impact loading, that could of easily sheared off causing injury/death to anyone standing in its way. From the stills it looks as if the defender has a winch fitted, this would of been a safer option, again the car recovery point is not a rated recovery point however with the correct technique a minimal force would of been applied and the vehicle freed.
Recovery in soft sand the towing vehicle should always continue until both vehicles are on hard standing to avoid repeated bogging down, momentum is the key not so much speed. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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16th Dec 2016 5:29pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16858 
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Halfwits, the lot of them (and I include the Defender driver in that).
A good illustration of why I don't generally recover people I don't know. I wonder which one of them had the brain cell that day, or perhaps they forgot it and left it at home. |
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16th Dec 2016 6:25pm |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 709 
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Another point the Subaru driver should have been told to leave the car in neutral and running and only use brakes and steering. It appears that neither party really knew what they were doing in this video.
I had a similar thing happen when I pulled a little Citroen van out of a ditch, I told the van driver explicitly that he mustn't put it in reverse and keep an eye on what my brake lights were doing, I started to pull gently and the van flew backwards, thankfully past my motor, but straight into another van parked on the side of the road, who's owner was stood right next to it watching the whole thing unfold. I got out and asked the driver what the hell he was doing after he was told not to reverse, only to have a very blank look from him. took one look at the owner of the other van, who was just stood shaking his head. |
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16th Dec 2016 6:27pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19535
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Defender driver shouldn't have stopped, car driver looks like he was thrashing it in reverse where IMO he should have kept it in neutral handbrake off and et the Defender and rope do the work. Then brake only to come to a halt slowly with momentum.
I recovered someone once, never again. Best way to destroy you treasured possession, they won't be bothered.... Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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16th Dec 2016 6:32pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109  
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^^^^^ never again unless it's life threatening I ended up recovering the car and the RAC van both together
  after Mr RAC had burnt his winch out 
Maybe they staled the Defender  |
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16th Dec 2016 7:18pm |
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| RoddyK05 Member Since: 08 Apr 2015 Location: Inverclyde Posts: 633
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I remember years ago at Sanna on the Ardnamurchan peninsula I came across a Jeep that was sunk up to its axles in the sandy dirt of a croft. The croft owner was shouting over to me not to bother trying to pull the stuck driver out because she had already tried and failed with her own Landy. I had a winch fitted to my Discovery at the time so I hooked onto the stuck Jeep and pulled him out.
Once he was clear, he then informed me that he had already phoned for a recovery truck and it shouldn't be far away - as he had been stuck for a few hours and the truck should only take a couple of hours to come from Fort William. We had a ferry to catch back to Tobermory so off we set and passed the recovery truck after about 5 minutes as it headed towards Sanna sands. The Jeep owner was in front of me and drove past the truck driver without saying that he was free, so the recovery driver had driven a couple of hours and was going to find nothing but a couple of deep ruts where the Jeep had been. Hopefully he had the details of the Jeep owner so he could at least claim back his diesel for the outing. On the OP's incident, I only recently discovered the existence of kinetic straps. When I used to do my bit off road, we used KERR or kinetic energy recovery ropes for some very stuck vehicles. A great deal of energy is stored in the rope - or strap - when in use, and should only be used with great care. I had an old VHS copy of a video taken by a lad I knew. A series 3 was being recovered using a KERR rope. As the tow vehicle took off and streatched the rope, the bumper and lifting rings of the series 3 flew past the camera at an alarming rate. If anyone had been in its path they would have been dead. A truly frightening film, I wish I still had it to watch again. |
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16th Dec 2016 8:51pm |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230 
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Snatch straps seem to be the first choice of recovery over here.
This is due mainly to the time saving but it's not always the best method and it comes with many risks. Winching a stuck vehicle on sand will only drag the winching rig closer to the bogged vehicle unless it's anchoured securely. (I do a few winch recoveries in the bush and often have to chain my Defender to a tree to stop it moving) I was going to type out how to use a snatch strap properly but these links explains it ... The tow rig uses the strap to give a "little" tug to the boged vehicle who then drives themselves out. This type of recovery is not deemed to be a tow as the strap is designed to strech(see video). Cheers, Kyle. |
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16th Dec 2016 10:52pm |
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