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ARC99



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Swapping Alloys for steels over winter
I am considering swapping the Boost Alloys and tyres that came with the 110 for a set of steel rims and winter tyres, possibly a set of Challenger 16x7's.

No being totally ignorant when it comes to wheels and tyres with the exception that they go round and need to be legal, I have a question.

I read somewhere on the forum that that alloys and steels are different thicknesses , Do I need to swap the wheel studs ? Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #578470 17th Nov 2016 3:42pm
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pjb



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I do not think studs but the nuts are different so will need a set of steel wheel nuts Thumbs Up 2020 P300 HSE
Post #578477 17th Nov 2016 4:09pm
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mse



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You can use alloy nuts on steel but not the other way round...although they will stick out and look odd Mike
Post #578479 17th Nov 2016 4:19pm
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ARC99



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Are yes new nuts I had forgotten about those. Good catch.

In my pervious job we were allowed to change wheels on the firms vehicle but not to drive them until we had had the nuts checked by a mechanic, we must have had one of the first female mechanics and the lads on the shift were always changing the wheels and asking for there nuts to be checked. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #578480 17th Nov 2016 4:22pm
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ARC99



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mse wrote:
You can use alloy nuts on steel but not the other way round...although they will stick out and look odd


Do you mean stick out and look odd as in silver against black?

or

Protrude out from the wheels? Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #578493 17th Nov 2016 5:31pm
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RoddyK05



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Standard steel wheel nuts are basically just that - they look like nuts. The nuts for your alloys are taller / deeper made and possibly have domed tops to them. They will work fine on the steels although they will look 'big' against the wheels and stick out a bit - personally I don't mind the look on the likes of a set of black modular. If you are changing over to HD or 'wolf' wheels I believe you will need longer studs as these rims are thicker. There should be stuff on here about it, but no doubt someone will be along shortly to either confirm what I suspect, or tell me I'm talking rubbish - either is very possible.
Post #578495 17th Nov 2016 5:47pm
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DSC-off



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To make things easier, you could get some "take off" alloys for the winter. There are plenty of boosts around for less than you'd pay for the challengers.
No need to buy nuts, or carry a set of alloy nuts in case you need to fit the spare ( assuming you don't get 5 steel wheels + tyres).
Probably better quality wheels too...
Post #578522 17th Nov 2016 8:07pm
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Cupboard



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ARC99 wrote:
In my pervious job ... nuts


Laughing

RoddyK05 wrote:
If you are changing over to HD or 'wolf' wheels I believe you will need longer studs as these rims are thicker. There should be stuff on here about it, but no doubt someone will be along shortly to either confirm what I suspect, or tell me I'm talking rubbish - either is very possible.


You're entirely correct in that there are longer studs and that best practice would be to swap them, however almost no one does and they're fine with the standard studs.
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cobra_mark



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I use steel wheels over the winter, have alloy free style wheels for the summer non salt time.

Give me time to clean up the alloys. Smile
Post #578533 17th Nov 2016 8:44pm
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