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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637   
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99 views! Surely someone can help!
Don't really want to have to replace the whole dpf! Thanks |
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6th Jun 2017 11:32am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857  
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On the 2.4 the front pipe including cat is a single piece and must be replaced as a whole at ridiculous cost. The equivalent expansion joint is not renewable separately. The flange at the turbo joint fell off my front pipe (another quality product!) but fortunately was weldable.
The parts catalogue for the 2.2 with DPF appears to list LR041312 as the part number for the front pipe, again it shows a single assembly. The price, and you may want to sit down before reading on, is around £1300 plus VAT. 
If I were in your situation I would be looking for a reputable breaker. |
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6th Jun 2017 12:48pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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Many thanks - that is what I suspected.
I think I will try somewhere that fabricates exhausts to see if there is a solution. |
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6th Jun 2017 1:17pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2063 
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Could always fit a decat pipe and hope the mot man doesnt notice... Then seal up the old one best you can just incase
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6th Jun 2017 1:57pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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Not so easy on a 2.2 with the DPF though.
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6th Jun 2017 2:02pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2063
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Is it not? Shame 5 bolts to drop a TD5 one takes all of 20 mins
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6th Jun 2017 3:18pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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Do you mean the flexi bit? If so measure the diameter of the pipes and go to a factors and ask to look at some exhausts. find one that's the right diameter with a flexi bit in it and just cut the pipe off eiher side and weld it in place of yours. |
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6th Jun 2017 6:24pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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Which is helpful to the OP how exactly?  |
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6th Jun 2017 6:26pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2063
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lol sorry its not, I was just wondering what made the Pumas so difficult?
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6th Jun 2017 6:38pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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Only the fact that the 2.2 has a blooming great combined cat and DPF fitted immediately downstream of the turbo, without which the engine won't run!
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6th Jun 2017 7:11pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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It's not too bad on the 2.4, but from what i understand the 2.2 has a bigger lump to get out as it has the DPF built in. Which means undoing engine mounts and jacking it up to get it down past the chassis rail. (in the factory the whole power unit is dropped in from the top with the Cat/DPF attached.) Not to mention the electronic side of things.
2.2 Engine....  Click image to enlarge On your TD5, just knock the guts out of the cat and weld a bit of pipe in there so it passes the visual MOT check.  |
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6th Jun 2017 7:13pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2063
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 hell!! Excuse my language but I now fully understand your predicament!
In that case I would look an exhaust place, I can't imagine it would be too much considering its a Ford engine after all. My 02 90 sailed through 4 MOTs at 4 different garages with no CAT/DPF, my 04 110 has gone through 1 so far. Guess im lucky! |
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7th Jun 2017 11:30am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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No DPF fitted, that's why!
Cats you can get away with relatively easy...  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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7th Jun 2017 11:55am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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Emissions wise the MOT doesn't actually test for gas emissions on diesels (like they do for petrol engines), just soot. The smoke test purely measures the amount of soot in the exhaust. You were able to get away with a missing cat or DPF, so in 2014 the DFT introduced a visual check for the presense of a CAT/DPF which is literally just a case of the tester looking to see if it's been removed if it was fitted as standard, in some cases the tester will forget to check, they can't see it even if it was fitted or they're just not aware it was supposed to have one as standard.
Be warned though, the dft are looking at introducing some kind of new check in the future, which i assume will be along similar lines to the gas analyser used for petrol engines. Given dieselgate, i would imagine this is now on their list of priorities. Without seeming judgemental, It's also worth remembering this;
That's if you're unlucky enough to get caught in one of those roadside DVSA/Police checks and they notice it's missing. |
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7th Jun 2017 1:37pm |
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