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BCdefender



Member Since: 26 Oct 2015
Location: Nanaimo
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Canada 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Orkney Grey
Will you shun the new defender?

Logic prevails.

The new defender will not be hand made. It will be manufacture via the 220 + robots that make your too expensive to off-road Range Rover.

Will you shun this new rounded body panel defender or embrace?

Personally I'm not sure yet... I have a RR that my wife drives. I loath it for all its on board modernization and expense which came straight from the factory.

My 1999 defender (the latest available in Canada) is packed full of things like 2015 heated puma seats, blue tooth stereo and phone, surround sound stereo (thank you CDN038) etc all of which I painstakingly installed myself. I love it for all the modernizations that I have have built and understand.

Any thoughts? (Sunday night philosophy with a bottle of Felton Road Pinot) 1999 Defender 110
2003 P38
2007 RR SC

"And that’s why it needs to be celebrated, because when the Defender goes we’ll have lost this pointer to where we came from, and we're really going to miss it."

My build thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic47750.html

Post #563249 12th Sep 2016 3:39am
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Huttopia



Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Portofino Red

Remember how many folk loathed the slab sided D3 until functionally it grew on them? If the new one does a job well then why shun it? It will be better built, have more toys, be more comfortable and capable offroad so what is not to like? Whistle

Post #563255 12th Sep 2016 4:40am
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agentmulder



Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
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New Zealand 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Cairns Blue

There are few things that make the defender for me:

- rivets
- roof gutter
- flat glass
- exterior hinges
- 'tall' aspect
- blocky form
- lack of bling
- series style handle retained on the rear

It'd be pretty hard to convince me of a new 'Defender' without most of those. My karma ran over my dogma.

Post #563257 12th Sep 2016 4:58am
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williamthedog



Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue

I will wait until its actually released before I make a comment.
It could be good or it could be bad Neutral

Post #563259 12th Sep 2016 5:28am
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familymad



Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
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2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

I will buy one of the first ones. Will be a SWB with lights behind the grille. Want to spec it with the canvas hood too. As an early one it will have the sliding windows and galv tub cappings. No air con and no radio please. Will get it Dinatrol'd and it will be a keeper Whistle

Sorry, just had a 1983 throwback moment.... 2016 110 XS - SOLD
2012 130 DCPU
1951 80" S1

Post #563278 12th Sep 2016 7:11am
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Cupboard



Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

I'll shun it if it can't do what my current one can.
If it is more capable, more comfortable and lower maintenance then I won't shun it.

I won't buy it because it says "Defender" or "Land Rover", I'll buy it if it's better. I won't shun it because it's "new", but I will if it's worse for being so.

Post #563284 12th Sep 2016 7:33am
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Im going to buy a new one and shun the old one Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile

Post #563292 12th Sep 2016 8:07am
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milesr3



Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Suffolk
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2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green

familymad wrote:
Sorry, just had a 1983 throwback moment....


1983 or 1953?

I will spec mine with a full length hood, interior and external mirrors, a recirculating heater/demister unit, rubber pedal pads and a spare wheel carrier on the bonnet.

I hold a candle for the new Defender and will buy one if it is better. I fear it will be fashion over function though.

Post #563296 12th Sep 2016 8:31am
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4ndy



Member Since: 04 Jun 2016
Location: Cheshire
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It won't be a Defender in the truest sense, but if it's a good 4x4 and an alternative for a D4 in its utility capabilities, I'll seriously consider it.

Saying that, it'll probably be the price tag that'll put me off Big Cry Not an owner... yet!

Post #563297 12th Sep 2016 8:37am
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LoveTheMud



Member Since: 19 Feb 2015
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Has the delivery date slipped further back to 2019 now though? So We are unlikely to even see the test subject on the road in order to give a more informed decision...
That said, I will buy one, but its unlikely to be one of the first batch as new cars always have major bugs Shocked

Post #563299 12th Sep 2016 8:40am
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Iggle piggle



Member Since: 10 Sep 2014
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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 V8 Petrol SW Chawton White

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First batch!

33 years couldn't sort the last batch out! Rolling with laughter

Post #563302 12th Sep 2016 8:53am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

I will shun it if it is not what I want.

If it is what I want, then I won't shun it.

Do I expect it to be what I want? No, I think it is extremely unlikely that it will be anything like I want, but I still hold out a small hope that I will be pleasantly surprised.


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Post #563307 12th Sep 2016 9:24am
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Pickles



Member Since: 26 May 2013
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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

Personally, I don't see how anyone can accurately, & truthfully, answer this question, until they know what the "New" Defender will be.
Pickles.

Post #563311 12th Sep 2016 10:11am
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

No, im looking forward to it - it will be awesome Thumbs Up Mike

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X4SKP



Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Will you shun the new defender?

I agree with Pickles

Jury's Out...But If

Too Expensive
Too Complicated
Look don't Touch design ethos
Tougher version of a current Land Rover product range
Not 'Platform' for Multi Use
Mass Appeal not Individualistic
(I accept that LR will make if a genuine Off Road Vehicle)

then probably yes

But if...

Simple (enough)
Practical
Adaptable
All Terrain
All Weather
Increased Comfort
Increased Safety

and here's the big one...manages to pull off the trick of carrying forward the 'Defender' overall design aesthetic
that presents the replacement Defender as the natural 'evolution' of the marque...were it would have been if subjected to overall continual improvement (beyond the 'modest' mechanical upgrades it did received)...

then I'm interested...(If its still a Defender...Not just in name)

The one that wont work for me and will be in 'conflict' with the aims of LR is...
I don't want to drive a wide (let alone mass) appeal vehicle.

It would be very easy to get this wrong...


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 SKIP.


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