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gilarion



Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
To be fair when the Defender first came out I hated it, having been used to a series two and then three with its distinctive front and basic interior. I thought the front styling of the Defender was horrible and its one piece windscreen and wind down door windows. After a few years though I got used to the changes and bought one.

I am sure, for me anyways, that when and if the new Defender comes to market I will probably because of the change hate it, then two or three years down the line I will probably own one. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
Post #563326 12th Sep 2016 12:55pm
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
Trust me it will be fine

Although i also had no problem with the DC100...but the new defender will be fine, enjoy it

(those that dont like change will be disappointed regardless) Mike
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LoveTheMud



Member Since: 19 Feb 2015
Location: Weybridge Surrey & Pontefract West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Just wish they would bloody hurry up about it! Whistle Rolling Eyes
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Vehicles change over time, this will always happen, the series went through some changes until the defender came out with its fancy coil springs, a heater that worked, an extended load area etc. I will wait to see what the new one looks like and drives like before I make my assessment. I do however hope it keeps a lot of its current styling ques. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #563339 12th Sep 2016 1:54pm
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ibexman



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Re: Will you shun the new defender?
BCdefender wrote:
Logic prevails.

The new defender will not be hand made. It will be manufacture via the 220 + robots that make your too expensive to off-road Range Rover.

Will you shun this new rounded body panel defender or embrace?

Personally I'm not sure yet... I have a RR that my wife drives. I loath it for all its on board modernization and expense which came straight from the factory.

My 1999 defender (the latest available in Canada) is packed full of things like 2015 heated puma seats, blue tooth stereo and phone, surround sound stereo (thank you CDN038) etc all of which I painstakingly installed myself. I love it for all the modernizations that I have have built and understand.




Any thoughts? (Sunday night philosophy with a bottle of Felton Road Pinot)


What a stupid question 😳
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couplands



Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
I'm hoping it will be a natural replacement for my D4...if it is, I'll be swapping that for it.

I will still keep a Defender as long as I can.

Cheers

Simon
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custom90



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A smaller version of the D4 with more defender like character would suit me.
However, no doubt it'll be around D4 price range, much higher than the Defender pricing was and this out of my price range however much if I'd like it.
Most likely the same for many others too.
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
I'd say the chances of me buying any new car again is around nil. The chance of me buying any new Landrover is also probably about nil. I highly doubt the new Defender will be marketed towards people like me and that is fine, I am content that JLR have cut themselves off from their heritage and moved in another direction, so be it. I and many other like me will keep that heritage alive. I won't ever sell my 110, but when it becomes too old for regular use (not that it goes out every day, it is a weekend vehicle really now) I suspect we will just get a decent saloon car and leave it at that. Whilst I may treat myself to some more Land Rovers in the future they will almost certainly be leaf-sprung, and who knows I may even get sidetracked if I find a UAZ or a nice early beetle (which would please the Mrs no end, she keeps asking me to buy her a Schwimwagen!) 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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Simon27



Member Since: 30 Oct 2012
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Scotland 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Tamar Blue
My current thinking: If one waves, I'll wave back, but I would not initiate a wave to a newer model.

But then there's every chance it's awesome and I'm just jealous rattling around in my ancient tin shed. Confused
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
Aye but the Disco, RaRo and many other cars on the road are "awesome", but I still wouldn't want to drive one! The Defender just has something no other car does, and no design studio can just paint it in somehow...abstract I know but I am sure most people will understand what I am on about. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
Post #563475 12th Sep 2016 9:27pm
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Muddybigdog



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Really depends on what gets rolled out, if it's another Gerry "can't think of another shape" McGovern jelly mould, I'm out Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold
D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold)
Freelander 2 HSE - Sold
Freelander 1 - Sold
Disco 2 - Sold
Post #563481 12th Sep 2016 9:37pm
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
22900013A wrote:
Aye but the Disco, RaRo and many other cars on the road are "awesome", but I still wouldn't want to drive one!


I'd happily drive one, but I wouldn't want to own one.
Most cars out there I'd lease over buying, then when all the complicated bits go wrong it's not my problem.
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Lay off the Felton Rouge Pinot would be my advice. Rolling with laughter

'Shun' is a very strong verb...."To persistently avoid, ignore, or reject (someone or something) through antipathy or caution:"

With the amount of people on the forum that rushed out to place a speculative deposit on the DC100 when it was revealed as a potential replacement I seriously doubt that your choice of verb is the correct one?

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic12525....00+deposit

With all the leaks, squeaks, chocolate gearboxes and transmission woes I seriously think that any replacement will be hopefully better made with equal capability? The demand will be as great for a new one as there was at the demise of the old?

Dinosaurs are extinct, (the Defender as it was, was a dinosaur, albeit a very capable one as a workhorse) embrace change with hope and anticipation! Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Laurie



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
It probably won't be called a 'Defender' so it'll qualify for its own forum. 
Post #563587 13th Sep 2016 11:23am
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gilarion



Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
K9F wrote:


With the amount of people on the forum that rushed out to place a speculative deposit on the DC100 when it was revealed as a potential replacement I seriously doubt that your choice of verb is the correct one?


Good point. Thumbs Up

Also I feel that any new replacement Defender will perhaps in essence be aimed at a Different market, a market that expects comfort packed with the latest car technology and a leak free vehicle. Wink

In the end though price and vehicle design will dictate whether the car will sell in any volume. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
Post #563589 13th Sep 2016 11:32am
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