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CamRSA



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Alaska White
Groaning/bumping noise when steering maxed to right or left.
Hi there,

Having an issue with my steering where when it's maxed out to either side there is a lot of noise.

The only way I can describe it is groaning/bumping like something is rubbing up against something it shouldn't.

I currently have 265-75 Dakars on my 16" wolf, so not sure if that's the issue but it sounds pretty awful when it's happening.

Anyone with any experience? Garage mentioned power steering fluid but that is all good.
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Inigo



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Sounds like the bump stops. First job on a new defender is to adjust the steering so that turning circle is not quite that of an oil tanker. On mine, I slightly overadjusted on one side and there is the same noise on full lock. I really should get back underneath and bring it back in a notch.

I'm sure I found instructions on here for how to do this.
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Does it do this when moving on full lock or when stationary ? It could be your tyres rubbing on the radius arms if it happens when moving. If it is this you can wind out your steering lock stops to prevent it. 2005 Td5 90 XS

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Just sounds like bump stops need adjusting Thumbs Up James
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Two or more possibilities,

One is the power steering my td5 does this , generally at the extremes of steering lock but only when actually moving the wheel and not related to actual vehicle movement.

Other ive had experience of is when I changed the HD steels to boosts and that was at full lock when moving and was the treads f the tyres rubbing on the radius arms due to not adjusting the steering stops.

the steering stops one you might be able to actually see where the tyre is rubbing as a nice clean area on the radius arm.

Gary 3 Landrovers
Post #560913 2nd Sep 2016 9:03pm
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CamRSA



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Ya it's with movement. My 110 is South Africa groaned a bit when static turning the wheel but this is a good bit more and goes the whole way until the wheels aren't in that position anymore.

I will have a look tomorrow and see if I can spot the problem. Thanks guys.
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4RF RDS



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Check the outer side of the radius arm where the rear edge of the tire "would" hit, it'll be really clean or rubbed to bare steel. Sure sign that the steering stops need to be outward adjusted. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

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CamRSA



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Will do, thanks.

Would spacers stop this from happening?
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4RF RDS



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If this is the cause yes, then you can adjust in and get a much reduced turning circle. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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CamRSA



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Ok I'll have a look and see what's going on. Having an ongoing issue with the battery now, replaced it today and if I leave it for a bit it's struggling to start already. Better than being flat out dead but I think that's just a matter of leaving it over night. Next step look at the alternator I suppose, or get a multi meter and check the fuses. But I'll start another topic for that haha
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Screbble



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Hopefully it'll be a quick cheap fix Thumbs Up

The groaning emerging from my truck always seems to stop when my wife gets out. Coincidence or what.
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CamRSA



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haha priceless.

I think I may just start a thread with all the questions I have rather than litter the forum, thanks for all the advice guys, didn't get under to have a look today but I will ASAP.

Should I reconsider getting more 265-75s? Never had the issue with coopers of the same size, and I want to replace the dakars with cooper ST MAXXs anyway. The dakars, although the same 'size,' seem a lot more square which could be causing the contact? If I put spacers on or adjust the stops it will be fine anyway but I understand some insurance companies can be difficult with these things.
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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
I always ran 7.50 R16s or 235 85R16s. Since the metric tires have gone the way of the Dodo I use the 235 85s now. The NAS Defenders came standard with the 265 75s but the steering stops were adjusted and had a horrible turning radius. If you can go to the 235s you will probably like that better and no adjustment is needed. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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