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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
High Level LED brake light
I got fed up waiting for a high level brake light LED panel that I decided to make my own..
The PCB's should arrive in a week, LED's already here.. Just a quick dremel, and 3D print a couple of brackets, and Bob's yer aunties live in lover for about £12

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!!

I'll post some pix when the bits turn up.. ... ,-------,
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PAUL
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Post #559257 27th Aug 2016 12:07am
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barking



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Looks great. Where did you source the pcb from Shax? I am in need of a slim line light as the cage I have in the back of the car hits the original.
Post #560220 31st Aug 2016 1:28pm
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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
I designed the PCB file myself in Sprint Layout6.. Just waiting for the boards to arrive from China..
The LED's and other bits are waiting to be soldered, Dremelled and bolted!!

Pics to follow as promised, once I've assembled it... ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
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26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #560310 31st Aug 2016 8:02pm
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
I get my PCBs from Seeed Studio: https://www.seeedstudio.com/fusion_pcb.html
Their pricing is good, their service is good, the quality of the stuff that arrives is good.

I've had stuff done in the UK by PCB Train and would only use them if I needed it within a few days. Otherwise if you go for the fast turn around you can get stuff from Seeed within a week-ten days and it's a whole lot cheaper than PCB Train.

I used to use Easy PC to design them but now use RS Designspark which is the same but with different branding and it's free. If you then want to make a box for them you can export the PCB design in to the 3D cad package very easily too.
Post #560332 31st Aug 2016 8:44pm
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Ryderoo



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Shax, if you are thinking of selling these, I would be interested, the high level break light is the only non LED light on my truck. Cheers Simon

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Post #560342 31st Aug 2016 9:08pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade but what about 'e' marking?

Currently it still applies. Rolling Eyes

I know how annoying it is having all lights LED except one, used to be side repeaters on mine until they were produced.
Post #560344 31st Aug 2016 9:26pm
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ericvv



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custom90steve wrote:
Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade but what about 'e' marking?

Currently it still applies. Rolling Eyes




And that is unlikely to change in the future for you. Laughing
Nothing to do with being in or out of EU. We also are not in EU, never were actually, but E marking is a must in Switzerland. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #560346 31st Aug 2016 9:27pm
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custom90



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It's not a bad thing but due to cost puts manufacturers off producing these items.
So in the end we go without unless it can be proven there is a definite demand.
Post #560352 31st Aug 2016 9:32pm
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Shax



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
E marking...?? Hmmm... Now that's an interesting question..

So I currently have an E marked high level brake light, using a 21watt bulb, and it's been E marked with that 21watt bulb.. Now, I wander off to my local LED bulb reseller, and buy a 5watt LED cob light to replace said 21watt incandescent filament bulb.. The original E marking test is null and void...
But no one bats an eyelid, because I am doing the "green" thing by using less watts of leccy!

ALL the LED bulbs I have seen have no E mark on them.. The E mark is moulded on the red lens on the assembly I'll be butchering.. And lets face it, EVERYTHING is supposed to be CE marked too, which I now take to mean China Export!!

I've also read on one of these very forum pages that the high level brake light is classed as an accessory, and not subject to E marking anyway!

I'll not be reselling high level brake light led panels, but if people ask nicely I may sell them a bag of bits to build their own red high output panel, for use as a device to preserve ones ability to see in the dark, without losing ones Scotopia (noun: the ability of the eye to adjust for night vision - Collins)

Oh, and they also come in white and UV... If I could source enough 905nm IR leds, it could also be used as a lidar jammer, but the Defender don't usually go fast enough to worry about that!!! ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
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.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
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Post #560366 31st Aug 2016 9:55pm
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nakatanenga



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Hi,

E-marked 3rd brake light is ready! 3 colours available. pictures coming later the day

Peter WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k
Post #560435 1st Sep 2016 7:38am
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Cupboard



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According to K9F on a different thread:

K9F wrote:
ericvv wrote:
Thought to ask you specifically, you are after all the guru of the E-marking and IP rating (latter not appliable in this case). Thumbs Up Thanks, Eric


A point to note here is that a third brake light is not an 'obligatory light' and does not have to be e-marked, so effectively you are getting an added bonus.

Rolling with laughter Bow down
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Shax



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
The PCB's for the HLLBL turned up today... Just don't have the time today to solder one up!
But as promised, I'll drip feed the fotos as I take em!


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The panel uses 90 x 3mm ultrabright red LEDs, and are arranged in two banks of 45.. There is a reason for this, but that's hush hush for the time being! ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #561667 5th Sep 2016 7:25pm
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dgardel



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nakatanenga wrote:
Hi,

E-marked 3rd brake light is ready! 3 colours available. pictures coming later the day

Peter


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Shax



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
High Level LED brake light - Continued!!
Hi All!!

Well, I finally soldered a panel up, and it looks pretty good...
Just need to fit it into the current housing... But in the meantime, here are a couple more pix of the panel..



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Fully populated panel


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Lights on!!

I'll bung a couple more images up when I get round to fitting it in the rear window.. ... ,-------,
.. I [__][_]|__
.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
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Are you going to have them alternate flashing then?
Post #563573 13th Sep 2016 10:04am
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