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Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Let me guess....they all do that - its normal

Blithering wipers....bang and now they've stopped mid way.

Grrrr.

Any thoughts on where to start looking for ideas on what went wrong?

24th Aug 2016 9:07pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3615

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

if both have stopped but motor runs then the perhaps the teeth on the gear wheel or the pinion or the cable rack has broken, they are exactly the same arrangement as the old mini ones easy and cheep to fix but hard to get to DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

24th Aug 2016 9:12pm

Huttopia

Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1968

Dashboard out for a £20 fix.....

24th Aug 2016 9:17pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

Just had a quick look. No noise so motor ain't working. Hopefully just a fuse but I doubt it. Sounded like mechanism seized....was moving slowly prior to bang? Do the mechanisms typically need lubricating - if so from where?

Had park switch replaced before so hoping it ain't that again?

24th Aug 2016 9:19pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

Huttopia wrote:
Dashboard out for a £20 fix.....

Oh great. Got any good news this evening?

Waiting for daughter to get home and then I can see it being a long night.

24th Aug 2016 9:21pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

If the fuse has popped your wheel boxes have probably seized up. For the sake of £50 I'd replace them with genuine ones. Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

24th Aug 2016 10:21pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

Nope. Fuse ain't gone?
But no movement either?

24th Aug 2016 10:23pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1728

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

I think Black Wolf did an excellent write up on how to lift one end of the dash away to access it all and do the repairs.

At least no one can claim you're imagining this one!

Keith

24th Aug 2016 10:34pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

yep that's right Keith

Anyhow got the roof lining out but still can't find the motor?

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Last edited by Caterham on 24th Aug 2016 10:50pm. Edited 1 time in total

24th Aug 2016 10:48pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16892

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Rattle each wiper, probably one will be have a bit of movement and one will be stuck. Gentle waggle the stuck one, it will probably then free off and the wipers will park.

If the above comes to pass it is due to wear in the wheelboxes, and the solution is to replace them (which requires the dash to be freed off and pulled back from the bulkhead but not removed). A short term fix can be achieved by removing the motor and drive rack inner cable thingy, rotating the spindles 180 degress, and reassembling.

The Puma wiper motor has thermal protection so it usually doesn't blow the fuse if it stalls (and it is of course located in front of the passenger obetween the plastic dash and bulkhead, not in the roof, as I am sure you know).

24th Aug 2016 10:48pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

Both wipers seem to be very stiff with surprisingly little play?

Got the dynamat n first section of roof lining fitted though

25th Aug 2016 12:19am

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

thanks BW. motor has thermal protection?

does that mean it has it's own fuse? what needs to be done to reset / fix once the thermal protection has cut in?

many thanks,

25th Aug 2016 9:34am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16892

No, I can't remember the details but it stops before it spontaneosly combusts if the wipers are stuck to the screen, or, as happens more commonly on a Defender, the wheelboxes have jammed. If it didn't, even if you turn the wipers off, the motor will still be trying to park them if the ignition is on.

No reset is necessary, all you need to do is unjam or unstick the wipers.

There is a fuse as well, of course, to pretect against electical malfunction.

25th Aug 2016 12:50pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

thanks BW

I wonder if it's a new motor then - or repairable?

seems like something re; wheel boxes / rack needs replacing too

bvgger. !

25th Aug 2016 12:53pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

£150 ish for genuine motor and wheel boxes isn't too bad really when you think of how much you've blown on imaginary problems. At least this is real.

Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

25th Aug 2016 1:19pm

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