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| ChrisJ Member Since: 12 Nov 2013 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 231   
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Although I can not comment on the wear and tear part, I can say that my MY15 had the clutch replaced less than 1500 miles ago due the clutch springs being broken, she had covered 12,000 easy miles in the last year since I bought her.
I contacted My supplying dealer (sturgess, Leicester) regarding the rattling and they had it in for inspection, agreed a new clutch and booked in for replacement all within 1 day, there were no mention of agreeing with jlr although they may have done so. Clutch was replaced with no hassles...... BUT! I have now covered 1500 miles on the new clutch and it has again started to rattle under idle. My old clutch started at around 7000 miles. |
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9th Aug 2016 9:15pm |
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| Jukathy Member Since: 25 Jan 2015 Location: Berlin Posts: 170 
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 Why could that happen? Heavy towing? Suburban car racing? Too much off road? |
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9th Aug 2016 9:25pm |
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| Galyman Member Since: 20 Jan 2016 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 86  
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Hi ChrisJ.
Seems to be hit and miss on the dealers. PLR initially stated it was the clutch plate springs and therefore covered by warranty. I then questioned why I needed to pay £900 if they knew what it was and were only getting in to photograph it to send to LR Warranty for authorisation. They then changed their tune to say they assumed it was the springs but I would have to take the risk by paying £900 in order to determine if it actually was. If it was not then I would have to pay for a new clutch. PLR did not seem to know what was, and was not covered by the warranty, so suggested I find out for myself. Not the greatest of customer service. Not sure i will be continuing with extended warranty beyond December. |
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9th Aug 2016 9:26pm |
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| ChrisJ Member Since: 12 Nov 2013 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 231
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No towing, no heavy use, just general day to day stuff and the odd holiday down to Dorset or to the lakes.
It sounds as though they are not a defender dealer as such, I'm quite fortunate that sturgess sold a lot of defenders and know them very well, it may be worth looking for a dealer local to you that knows defenders a little better. The clutch spring problem is unfortunately not in common, although very annoying to say the least. |
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9th Aug 2016 9:43pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16879 
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Life expectancy of the current version of the Tdci clutch in normal usage seems to be around 50,000 miles.
Replacing a clutch would take about 4hrs with dealer facilities, in my opinion. |
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9th Aug 2016 9:59pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7873 
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The clutch on my 2012 110 was changed under warranty just before i bought it at 30k miles. I am hoping it doesn't mean a new clutch every 30k!! When it goes next I will be changing it for a Truckfix clutch. James
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9th Aug 2016 10:06pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Take it to another dealer. Warranty managers are so variable in regards to how sympathetic they are to customer issues so it pays to shop around. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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9th Aug 2016 10:43pm |
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| Galyman Member Since: 20 Jan 2016 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 86
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Thanks all for your comments and advice. Much appreciated.
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10th Aug 2016 8:39pm |
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| Jukathy Member Since: 25 Jan 2015 Location: Berlin Posts: 170
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Mine's an MY 2012, too. 21k miles. Clutch doesn't rattle yet *touch wood* Forces on the clutch are higher if compared with 'normal' cars. That's why you have to be "extra careful". No harsh pedal actions. Don't declutch - disengage gear asap. That's what I've heard ... I'd expect a clutch to last for 120k miles ... Last edited by Jukathy on 10th Aug 2016 9:21pm. Edited 5 times in total |
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10th Aug 2016 9:00pm |
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| Phil VM2.5 Member Since: 28 Mar 2012 Location: Limelette Posts: 196 
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Hi,
Mine have 105.000km and hope at least be good to 200.000km. I could understand that for heavy work it have to be change before but not for normal use Phil current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and again my Range Rover VM2.5 engine from 1992 and 528.000km today. One ten 1988 to 1992 1987 BMW GS80 One Ten from 1984 to 1987 One Ten from 1983 to 1984 Serie 3 109 from 1980 to 1983 from 1974 Jeep CJ3B and CJ6 |
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10th Aug 2016 9:12pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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On my 2.4 it was first changed at 13k miles, just after I bought it.
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11th Aug 2016 8:57am |
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| Al_The_Pal Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Near the bottom on the right Posts: 146 
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Just for info
The clutch gave up pretty much totally on my 15MY while on hols in Cornwall on Tuesday, got it to a dealers here and they have changed it and got car back to me in 2 days. Started finding downshifts to 5th and 4th were dragging one night, following morning it got worse, 50miles later couldn't get it in to reverse, clutch bite point was on the floor. Car has done 13k miles, all on road and driven same as I drive our 300tdi which has only ever had two clutches in 18 years (mostly due to being replaced when the clutch fork bursts through). Dealer said clutch springs had gone and replaced pressure plate and cover.... All seems fine so far. Don't feel I have abused the clutch as I drive like an old geezer now. |
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12th Aug 2016 3:16pm |
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| Tony_Hillerby Member Since: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Inverurie Posts: 36 
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I have just had the 90 in for its year 2 service with 20K on the clock, I complained about the gearshift was getting a but rough and a clunk could be heard on gear change, normally 3rd to 4th. The vehicle does quite a bit of towing work. Service done and they have changed the clutch and the crankshaft seal as that was leaking , they commented that the friction plate springs were broken. It now drives smoothly and the gear change is much improved. My last 2007 110 also had to have the clutch changed as well at 30K. Have they not learnt anything on clutch's since the issues surfaced with the early Pumas?
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14th Aug 2016 12:54pm |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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My 2012 40K mile 110 has an occasional clutch rattle at idle. It comes and goes but it operates as well as it did when new.
When it was still under warranty, I spoke to the local dealership and they were also quite happy to split the gearbox and inspect the clutch but couldn't guarantee that LR would cover the cost of this work or any replacement parts. Rather than risking main dealer labour rates to find out what I already know (that the clutch plate springs are worn) I decided to wait until it actually breaks and then get it fixed by an Indy or trusted local garage. In the long term it will be cheaper than paying for an extended warranty, particularly if the warranty terms mandate LR dealership servicing. |
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15th Aug 2016 4:44pm |
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