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L90DNY



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Corris Grey
Should I replace rear x member?
See the picture of my rear cross member attached.

Getting low on funds during the end of my td5 re-build, with it going into be painted shortly.

Replacing the rear cross member to tub bracket, unveiled this hole yesterday. Currently the tub is off the 90 so would make this job easier than when it is all back together.
The garage where it is want to take it back to the shock mounts and put a new one in £300 for part and £200 for labour. One benefit that despite 10 hours of pressure washing the chassis still has some sand/silt in it from where it worked in a mining environment.

So do I pay the £500 quid now or save it now and spend a couple hundred more later down the line? And just have them weld and patch the hole up for now ?

Apart from this hole it all seems pretty solid and I imagine with some paint and wax oil will at least last another year.

What would you do ?


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Post #551574 27th Jul 2016 12:59pm
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couplands



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You missed off the photo.

Not sure if the price is right, but I'd get it done now while its easier to do.

cheers

simon
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miker



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Black sheep Xmember. Cheaper and better.
Post #551583 27th Jul 2016 1:22pm
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L90DNY



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Couldn't get the picture to work here is a link to it - http://prnt.sc/by5hq2

The garage want to do the full leg extension cross member as I think that is easier to do.

I know of blacksheep spoke to clive original but it looked like it was going to make it until this bracket came off.
Post #551586 27th Jul 2016 1:41pm
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dorsetsmith



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for 06 plate defender not to well as you have gore too the trouble to remove the tub I`d replace rear x member

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Post #551588 27th Jul 2016 1:50pm
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Just copy the url from your gallery:


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While the tub is off I would replace it. Black Sheep seems way better than standard ones. Cheers, Vincent
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Post #551589 27th Jul 2016 1:55pm
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miker



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It looks pretty rough, probably more that you can't see too. I'd replace it personally, especially if you do any towing.
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Birdy



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"pretty rough, probably more that you can't see too"

Yup, bodge it as cheaply as possible for as many years as your friendly MOT man will wear it, start saving for a new chassis...

Peter
Post #551602 27th Jul 2016 2:20pm
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L90DNY



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The rest of the x member is pretty solid apart from surface rust. No welding at all on the chassis or needed (yet). I could have them patch this rear cross member and wait a 6 months/1 year to re-coup some funds before having the job done. Or just bite the bullet and throw another £500 quid at it, starting to wish I had bought a tidy example now having ended up re building this from scratch. Laughing
Post #551609 27th Jul 2016 2:55pm
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K9F



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Bite the bullet and just get it changed. Patching it is just a temporary sticking plaster and more money before the inevitable. From what can be seen the remainder looks treated and tidy. You already have the tub off so the preparation is all but done. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #551613 27th Jul 2016 3:10pm
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L90DNY



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The garage said they would only do it using this type of rear crossmember with extensions, as it is easier I think.

http://www.paddockspares.com/rear-x-member...sions.html

Does anyone see an advantage to this over just a normal Blacksheep crossmember install ?
Post #551619 27th Jul 2016 3:30pm
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K9F



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I know nothing about them but the part number seems to be an 'Allmakes' product?

http://www.ribblevalley4x4.com/allmakes/AM_LR611.html

There's also this option at half the cost if the rest of the chassis is ok?

http://www.ribblevalley4x4.com/category-30/LR613.html

Blacksheep have excellent reviews about their rear crossmembers, I am hard pushed to find any about Allmakes on the forums available. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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Post #551620 27th Jul 2016 3:35pm
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L90DNY



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That is what I am trying to establish if there is any advantage using the more expensive part that goes right back. The chassis is fine along that area. They are saying it is difficult to get an even cut or something doing it with just the rear cross member itself.

Other than it is just easier for the garage. As I can take it somewhere else and have it done with the cheaper part like you mention
Post #551621 27th Jul 2016 3:41pm
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K9F



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Based on feedback alone I'd go Blacksheep anyway if the vehicle is a keeper. Depends on your circumstances and perhaps the depth of your pockets?
As the paying customer if the crossmember without the extensions is beyond their capability I'd be looking elsewhere to get the job done. Why should you pay double just because they don't have the confidence, tools or acumen to do it? Tell them to 'kiss your swingers' and find someone that can fit the bill. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #551622 27th Jul 2016 3:43pm
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L90DNY



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Laughing Yeh I will have a frank conversation when I head down there shortly. Trouble is my land rover is in hundred pieces all around their workshop!
Post #551623 27th Jul 2016 3:49pm
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