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Harry.O



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
2.2 Defender - Burst Intercooler
We run a fleet of export spec 2.2 Defender 110s in Ghana which are causing a few headaches in respect to the intercoolers and pipework, hoping someone may be able to advise?

Originally the pipes were wearing through and the LR recall style of pipe has been fitted to prevent that. Following on from that the intercooler pipes were blowing off the intercooler connections which have now been secured by doubling up the jubilee clips.

Unfortunately now the inter coolers themselves are bursting, the plastic end tanks split from the alloy centre. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

The engines are in standard tune and are not subjected to off-roading or heavy towing, they typically burst at motorway speeds and not under excessive loads. The ambient temp is normally 30-35*C so the intake temps are on the warm side but that shouldn't be enough to cause these problems. The mechanic has nailed the diagnostics in and nothing seems amiss as far as turbo pressure or fault codes go.

Any suggestions as to what we ought to look for?

Thanks in advance,

Harry
Post #531207 13th May 2016 9:29am
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Sadi



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Namibia 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green
Burst I/cooler..
Any pics available please?
Post #531334 13th May 2016 7:11pm
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ericvv



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Harry, there is a real and definite solution for all those problems of course. Not cheap, but it works and is reliable. Entreq stainless intercooler pipes for the Puma 2.2 plus a larger Entreq intercooler which certainly in your case where ambient temps as you say usually are above 30°C would be beneficial. Here are two pictures, first one of the intercooler and one of the two stainless pipes of the Entreq kit attached for your 2.2 Pumas, a second picture of the same upgrade when it was done by Entreq last year on my 2.4 Puma. One of my standard rubber 2.4 hoses also had split once, but since last year no worries anymore. Thumbs Up
Eric

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Intercooler detail (same for both 2.4 and 2.2) No plastic part at all at these. Laughing

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Post #531416 14th May 2016 6:04am
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Harry.O



Member Since: 25 Jul 2014
Location: Warwickshire
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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
Re: Burst I/cooler..
Sadi wrote:
Any pics available please?


Afraid I don't have any at the moment, sods law one went yesterday! Next time one goes I'll get a couple of pictures for you. Currently the LR main stealer here has no replacements in stock so the local mechanic has been bonding the end chambers back on which seems to last about 5,000km before it pops off again.

Eric - that is also the solution I was looking at, not a cheap way to fix the issue but at least it means we won't have vehicles stuck on the side of the road Thumbs Up

There doesn't seem to be a lot on the internet about this happening but every single one of our 110s have done it now which is a bit odd.
Post #531519 14th May 2016 5:40pm
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stevie



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My 2014 110 split its intercooler along the plastic end cap. First time I've had it happen. Car is not tuned but does a lot of towing. It also blew the turbo hose off in the first few hundred miles, twice. Apparently the dealer has had a few vehicles in with pipes that had not been fitted properly at the factory.
Post #531809 15th May 2016 8:32pm
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Harry.O



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
That's interesting Stevie, sounds like the exact same problem that we are experiencing, how did they dealer sort the intercooler when that split?

Another intercooler went this morning, looks like a bulk order of uprated intercoolers are required Sad

Harry
Post #536392 1st Jun 2016 8:50am
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stevie



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They just replaced the intercooler for a new one of the same spec. Not had a problem since. Sounds as if they need to change your intercoolers for uprated versions. Hope they get it sorted.
Post #537070 2nd Jun 2016 11:08pm
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2hooky



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Firenze Red
My 2013 DCPU had the intercooler split around 6 months after it was purchased (new) The dealers did struggle to find what the problem was but in the end they replaced it. It never towed or went offroad. It now has 95k miles on it and has the new engine after the old one seized up on the M6 - it was touch and go to keep it, but glad I have as its now bedded in!!!
Post #550493 22nd Jul 2016 6:31pm
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Alien



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I like the idea of changing the hoses to pipes to reduce the rub point potential.
Another option for the intercooler is one recently released...
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic47263.html Cheers,
Kyle.
Post #550542 22nd Jul 2016 11:35pm
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