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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2109   
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That was my next question...
What about the coolant level? Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"  Click image to enlarge |
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18th Mar 2016 9:06pm |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39  
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Coolant level is fine as well
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18th Mar 2016 9:35pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683 
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if it was the turbo would it not always be there?
so too much fuel coming in but only when sat idling/not under boost? Cheers James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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18th Mar 2016 9:42pm |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39
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I thought the turbo only operated after a certain rpm? I have had the injectors replaced it was far worse before I had them done. Any thoughts on this idea from the transit forum that the turbo seals are faulty causing the oil in the intercooler etc
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18th Mar 2016 10:24pm |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39
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I thought the turbo only operated after a certain rpm? I have had the injectors replaced it was far worse before I had them done. Any thoughts on this idea from the transit forum that the turbo seals are faulty causing the oil in the intercooler etc
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18th Mar 2016 10:25pm |
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| Way of life Member Since: 07 Sep 2015 Location: Halifax NS Posts: 22  
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I'm watching this mine is doing the same thing after cleaning the injectors and new fuel pump.
Mine is just like yours doing all the same stuff. Good luck i hope you get it fixed, so mine will be fixed. I'm going to do a BAS remap and reset the Fuel pump volume control valve (VCV) programming and the Engine pilot correction learning procedure. I'm going to do this in about 2 weeks when I get home. Good luck |
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19th Mar 2016 4:28am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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if the engine is running turbo is turning although not doing much at engine speeds to enhance the amount of air in the chamber
if its overfuelling at low rpm you would be wasting fuel and hence white smoke until the turbo is coming into boost and using that extra fuel if its oil your oil level would be dropping over time which its not. from the description it sounds like a lot of oil being burnt over what time period/mileage has this been happening? Cheers James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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19th Mar 2016 7:58am |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39
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It has happened over the last 3 months no more than 2 thousand miles. It was really bad at first but then I had the injectors replaced. Its confusing that it happens only for the first half a mile or so then will run fine all day.
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19th Mar 2016 11:17am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4478 
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Does'nt the tdci like the td5 have some programming to deal with unburnt fuel left in the system from a previous trip. Maybe this has gone awry and it's a problem with the ECU programming. Just a thought to add to the many others given here. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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19th Mar 2016 2:53pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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injectors still leaking into the cylinder which is why is diesel not oil, nothing in coolant, and why its goes after initial startup but comes back after being left for a longer period - ie over night. Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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20th Mar 2016 9:37pm |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39
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I have had all 4 injectors sent away and inspected. 1 was faulty. Iv replaced them with all new copper seals ect. Would the diesel burn off after 5 minutes of idle? This smoke is happening after idle whilst actually driving off.
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21st Mar 2016 10:10am |
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| Mogboy Member Since: 22 May 2013 Location: Brisbane Posts: 31  
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White smoke is raw diesel coming through. Injectors checked OK, so there are a couple of other things to check...
COMPRESSION: if low will white smoke until it warms up. Most likely reason is gummy rings. A high quality flushing compound, or multiple quick oil changes might do it. INJECTION TIMING OUT: Worn keyway on timing gear was common on older technology diesels. CRD computers decide the timing based on crankshaft position and other inputs. Could crankshaft position sensor have moved slightly? Gummy rings is the more likely. Good luck Mogboy |
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21st Mar 2016 11:36pm |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39
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Thanks Mogboy il have a look into it this weekend.
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22nd Mar 2016 10:49am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7683
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But it doesn't do it after cold starts later on in the day and drives normally
edited to change child to cold! Sorry - phones! Cheers James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop Last edited by jst on 25th Mar 2016 10:29pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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22nd Mar 2016 8:49pm |
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