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excossack



Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Weird starting and cutting out issue
This morning car started ok. Drove to work and left in the carpark from 8am till 5pm.
Got back in the car to come home, started as normal.
A few seconds idling and then cut out. Tried to restart and no - just a long crank with some smoke out the exhaust (grey).
Tried again this time cranking and pumping the throttle pedal and then brummm starred fine. Drove home fine with no lack of power.

Fuel gauge showed just under 1/4 just as it was when I left home.
Filled up with fuel started fine and ran fine.

Ordered a new fuel filter just in case. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #512600 9th Mar 2016 9:16pm
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excossack



Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
This morning car started fine. Hopefully it just a blip 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #512708 10th Mar 2016 8:59am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
The issue happened again last night after leaving work. Started fine then cut out and took an age to start.
This morning it started fine, fuel level again not far off 1/4 tank - same as last night

The issue has only appeared after having the fuel tank removed so the x-member could be replaced. (Could just be bad timing I guess?)

Any thoughts ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #522223 8th Apr 2016 1:30pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
Could be some airlocks kicking around in the system. Or the pipe union onto the tank was damaged/not refitted correctly so you're getting air and fuel.
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Have you checked the injector loom for oil ingress?

Just seen the tank was removed, as said above check unions for tightness, also some sediment could of been dislodged and this could be restricting the fuel pickup pipe. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............

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Post #522225 8th Apr 2016 1:33pm
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miker



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Try priming/purging it. Ignition to pos2, pump gas pedal 5+ times quickly. Engine management light will flash and fuel pump will makes lots of funny noises.
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
miker wrote:
Could be some airlocks kicking around in the system. Or the pipe union onto the tank was damaged/not refitted correctly so you're getting air and fuel.


Mmm good thought but the issue only appears to happen when I get to around 1/4 tank.
Will have a look and see if I can see any leaks - which I guess I would get if the pipe was damaged/not fitted correctly? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #522227 8th Apr 2016 1:35pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Mash wrote:
Have you checked the injector loom for oil ingress?

Just seen the tank was removed, as said above check unions for tightness, also some sediment could of been dislodged and this could be restricting the fuel pickup pipe.


No I have not checked recently but worth a check 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #522228 8th Apr 2016 1:36pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
miker wrote:
Try priming/purging it. Ignition to pos2, pump gas pedal 5+ times quickly. Engine management light will flash and fuel pump will makes lots of funny noises.


Thanks will give it a go. Normally after replacing a filter I would refit the filter and turn ignition to pos2 and leave it whirling away until the pump stops. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #522229 8th Apr 2016 1:37pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
If only around half a tank I would say it's somthing inside the tank restricting the pickup pipe. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
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excossack



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More like 1/4 of a tank. From what I saw the fuel pump was not removed - just the pipes. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #522231 8th Apr 2016 1:38pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Sorry ment 1/4, the tank might have some crap in it that floats around happily until it gets to 1/4 at that point it is drawn to the pickup pipe and restricts flow. I have found everything from rag/wood to plastic bags and empty bottles in fuel tanks on various vehicles over the years. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #522233 8th Apr 2016 1:41pm
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mk1collector



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Check if the fuel filter is tight. I got a 1/4 of a turn out of mine this winter. Ray
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
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