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CDN38



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Puma front door fitting issue
Has anyone encountered this before? I have stripped and repainted a set of 2008 front doors, all upper parts (spacers, gutters and waist seals are brand new Genuine).

When I went to fit the exterior waist seal, it appears that the door has a "bow" in the middle, so it doesn't contact the seal. The old seal seemed to have no issues.

Has anyone seen this before? wondering if the skin could have come un-bonded from the frame at the top???? Next step is to go back and tear it down and try to figure it out.... but I figure I would see if anyone has experienced this before.



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 it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
Post #510803 4th Mar 2016 9:18pm
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custom90



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That is quite badly bowed.

Where did you buy them from may I ask?

They shouldn't bow on their own accord without force, or at least I've never seen or heard of it.
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CDN38



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Seems to be close to 6mm. The other door is about a 3mm bow, but the seal fits fine.

Bought them about a year and a half ago from a breaker in Dorset. it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
Post #510871 5th Mar 2016 12:59am
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custom90



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Do you think there was damage due to force of impact? That may have caused it if it was accident damaged.
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Is it just the skin or the frame too that is bowed? I think my td5 doors have a small rivet in the middle of the top edge of the skin holding it to the frame under the waist seal. Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
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CDN38



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I'm going to take off the window regulator and pop the glass out tonight and have a look. There is a bit of play (I can squeeze the skin and frame together and get movement of the skin) couple mm at least.

Once it's apart, I'll have a better idea what's going on. it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
Post #510879 5th Mar 2016 3:29am
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custom90



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If you can move it back together then it should be okay to sort out.
Providing as above the door frame it's self fits okay.

Good luck. Thumbs Up
Post #510957 5th Mar 2016 11:36am
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CDN38



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Stripped down the door, and definitely there's a crown in the middle. The frame is straight, didn't look like any previous collision damage.... but the blob of bonding adhesive in the middle was so thick, it looked like it may have been creating the issue...oh well, onto a solution. (build tolerance?) Laughing

Slipped a hacksaw blade between the skin and frame to remove and release the existing bonding agent. Did a dry run with 2 clamps and a couple blocks of wood, and it looks like with a little pressure it comes down nice and even.

Used a 3M 2 part epoxy bonding agent ( http://3mcollision.com/3m-automix-universa...black.html ) borrowed from the bodyshop down the alley. Thumbs Up


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They use this stuff for bonding steel and aluminum in collision repair. Tested it out on 2 pieces of aluminum. After 30 minutes, they were permanently attached, wow, this stuff is AMAZING! All fixed and ready to go!!



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 it's a Landrover thing...

my renovation thread:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40792.html
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custom90



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Glad it's worked out for you in the end. Thumbs Up
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