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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435   
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Are you sure your right? All wheels after 1990 should have the same bore size, I don't think they've changed at all?
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8th Mar 2016 8:32am |
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| Penguin Member Since: 08 Dec 2014 Location: Tienen Posts: 247  
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100%
Since 2007 they are 114.6mm instead of 124mm 28/02 - Loss of a good friend... 
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8th Mar 2016 8:33am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6489 
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I've got 1997 wheels on my 2015 Defender and they fit straight on. No spigot rings or adapters, nothing.
The diameter of the drive flange (which is the equivalent of where a spigot ring goes on a normal hub) is exactly the same, no change. There's no mention on here of spigot rings - only spigot bearings for the clutch - and the only Google result for "Defender spigot 114.6mm" is this thread!! I think you have some misinformation. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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8th Mar 2016 10:34am |
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| Penguin Member Since: 08 Dec 2014 Location: Tienen Posts: 247
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Indeed, older wheels will fit newer defenders, but not the way around.
But did you measure your 2015 wheel hub? http://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/defender/2015/ http://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/defender/2007/ http://www.defendersource.com/forum/f6/hub...58414.html 28/02 - Loss of a good friend...
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8th Mar 2016 10:41am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6489
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An older wheel would indeed fit but it would be loose on the drive flange, and I would not fit loose wheels!
That site is wholly and completely wrong, there is no difference. If you want proof... Drive member 1993 to 2007: FTC859 replaced by RUC105200 Drive member 2007 to 2016: RUC105200 That is impossible if the drive flange diameter changed. They have also not made two different types of the Wolf/HD wheels which change at 2007. They are all ANR4583PM (tubeless, primed for paint) The before 2007 Boost alloy is RRC110870MNH replaced by RRC502000MNH replaced by RRC503400MNH replaced by LR023391 The after 2007 Boost alloy is RRC503400MNH replaced by LR023391 So all Boost alloys are now LR023391 This is also impossible if there is a change at 2007 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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8th Mar 2016 10:53am |
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| Penguin Member Since: 08 Dec 2014 Location: Tienen Posts: 247
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I'll send you a photo while measuring the axle.
I wanted to fit ZU wheels first, it was while searching for reviews and possible balance issues I came upon a post of a the diameter change. Not OZ, but ZU 28/02 - Loss of a good friend...
In a time of chimpanzees, I was a penguin. Last edited by Penguin on 8th Mar 2016 11:21am. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Mar 2016 10:57am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6489
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Well aftermarket wheels can be whatever centre bore they like
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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8th Mar 2016 11:06am |
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| Penguin Member Since: 08 Dec 2014 Location: Tienen Posts: 247
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well, I hope I'm wrong, cause in that case they will have to take back the wheels... 28/02 - Loss of a good friend...
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8th Mar 2016 11:07am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16927 
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I have fitted a Series 1 wheel to an '07 Defender while swapping wheels round and it is a perfect fit. There is no difference in centre size.
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8th Mar 2016 11:34am |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3346 
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You haven't changed your drive flanges have you? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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8th Mar 2016 11:35am |
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| Penguin Member Since: 08 Dec 2014 Location: Tienen Posts: 247
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no I didn't.
It's a 2015 defender. This bothers me... I'll be heading home to measure and to be sure. 28/02 - Loss of a good friend...
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8th Mar 2016 11:36am |
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| dave18 Member Since: 11 Jul 2015 Location: Gorleston, Great Yarmouth Posts: 497 
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Errrmmmm As said only two sizes, Early and Late!! Unless you have HD Drive flanges fitted which sometimes need the edges radiused to prevent them fouling.
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8th Mar 2016 11:55am |
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| Penguin Member Since: 08 Dec 2014 Location: Tienen Posts: 247
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As we say in Flemish: Meten is weten:
Original wheel fitted when purchased i nJune 2015 -> 114.6 will be correct Click image to enlarge The new wheels Click image to enlarge So the new wheels have a center bore of 124, my originals 114.6 As said, there is a difference after 2007. numbers on the original wheels: 6H12-1007 - 80 5½Jx16 x33 Tubeless MWro 13 15 696 Click image to enlarge So these will NOT fit a pre 2007 defender 28/02 - Loss of a good friend...
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8th Mar 2016 1:37pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3346
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But they are steel wheels they don't center on the spigot anyway they center on the wheel nuts so why does it matter?
Also your new wheels look like aftermarket 8 spokes so they will be different. They go over the drive flange and can be bolted up so what is the issue? My aftermarket modulars are not tight on the center ether and that is on a truck a long time prior to 2007 and I have fitted post 2007 hd wolf wheels onto it as well with no issue. Or have i got the wrong end of the stick?  Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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8th Mar 2016 1:46pm |
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