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Stiff1



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Heated Seats - Not working
Have concluded the original heated seats in the 2007 CSW are not working on bases or backs.

Both switches illuminate and a quick visual check reviled no fault with the connections or wires at the seat end, what should I be looking for?

What reading should I get on a meter at the plugs into the seat bases?

Thanks in advance
Post #502968 10th Feb 2016 1:04am
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
How many wires go into the seat base?

If 2, then I'd expect around 8V on Low power and 12V on high power.

If more, then I'd expect 12V on different pins dependent on the power level.
Post #502970 10th Feb 2016 1:28am
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Martin
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Unplug the seat from the seatbox connector.

With the switch on check the voltage at the connector on the seatbox - should be battery voltage (approx 12V). Take care not to short out the pins when doing this, it will blow the fuse,

Check the resistance across the seat connector. Should be a few Ohms (can't remember off the top of my head).

Open circuit means a broken heater element, thermal switch or wire inside the seat.

I repaired one of the seats I put in my soft top, a wire had snapped inside the backrest.

LR factory seats have only 1 setting - On. OK OK or off Laughing  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
Post #502973 10th Feb 2016 2:11am
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miker



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And there was me assuming they had low and high like the aftermarket stuff!
Post #502975 10th Feb 2016 2:42am
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Stiff1



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Thanks all.

Martin, can I assume if the switch is illuminating, inc. the amber light when switched on, the fuses are OK?
Post #503120 10th Feb 2016 3:50pm
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Martin
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Correct, the orange "on" lamp won't come on if the fuse has gone. The illumination is separate.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
Post #503126 10th Feb 2016 4:01pm
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Retrostu



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
Don't mean to hijack your post but my TD5 heated seats have a problem too drivers side not working but passenger does,
Swapped the seat bases round and drivers base does work plugged passenger base into drivers and not working, what gets priority though back part then base or both powered simultaneously?
Post #504283 13th Feb 2016 2:51pm
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Vanderbult



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did you fix this? i have the same problem
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40052....resistance

and

K9F wrote:
Each seat circuit has a heater element rated at about 14.4 watts at maximum current draw.
Each seat will draw only 10 amps each maximum, being protected by a single 20 amp fuse (fuse 33).
The maximum resistance value of the seat heater element would be 1.2 ohms.
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Post #570937 14th Oct 2016 10:26pm
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Shax



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Vanderbult wrote:
did you fix this? i have the same problem


I had a defective heater on the driver side.. It was caused by a split seat foam insert, that caused the wire to the bi-metallic switch to snap..
Replaced the seat foam, and resoldered the wires.. All OK now..

Just for info, the heater pads in my Puma are 2.5 ohms each, so that makes 5 ohms at 14.4v for the base and back (engine running) that equates to 2.88amps, or 41 watts of heat.... ... ,-------,
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